15x8? or 15x7? together with coilovers...

[G-Ammo]

Hey guys...

I've already looked up some similar threads, but non actually answers my question simply.

I want to buy new XXR 513's on my 09 Yaris hatch.

I actually want to have 15x7 in the front and 15x8 in the back with coilovers.
People tell me that when you do 15x8 in the back you'll have to roll out the fenders and such, but i really don't want to do that.

So is it better to do 15x7 all around? If so... whats the best ET i should get? Because it only says +15mm offset.

I hope anyone can give me alot of information about this, cause ive seen some people with the exact same wheels on a yari :D (i also pm'd them!)


Thank you

[yarisugi]

Since there are no other sizes for XXR513 other than 15x7 +15 offset and +0, +15 offset is the best size without rolling fenders. The edge of the wheel will protrude from the fender about 2-3mm in the rear and about 5mm-8mm in the front. If you run with 195/50/15 tires, the tire may rub on the rear fender.

15x8 +0 offset is too wide for the rear, fender roll required.

If it is available in your country, another option is from another wheel manufacturer - Rota. The ROTA RB, which has a similar design, has more offset options (+25, +35, etc).

[1.5]

How low are you planning on dropping the car? Are you going to run stretched tires? What look are you going for; almost flush, flush, poked?

Why are you scared to roll your fenders? Its rediculously easy and cheap. No one most likely will know you have done it.

There are too many variables to say one is better or worse and which one will work.

I am running 16x8 +12 right now and I almost never rub. I am running a 175/50 Yokohama s drive and have rolled and pulled fenders. But my subframe is 1" from the ground so it is deff possible to ride slammed with low offset wheels.

[1.5]

Here are pics showing my drop and my poke. Again almost no rubbing on all 4 corners. My frame/bumper rubs the ground all day though.

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[G-Ammo]

Originally Posted by 1.5

How low are you planning on dropping the car? Are you going to run stretched tires? What look are you going for; almost flush, flush, poked?

Why are you scared to roll your fenders? Its rediculously easy and cheap. No one most likely will know you have done it.

There are too many variables to say one is better or worse and which one will work.

I am running 16x8 +12 right now and I almost never rub. I am running a 175/50 Yokohama s drive and have rolled and pulled fenders. But my subframe is 1" from the ground so it is deff possible to ride slammed with low offset wheels.

Thanks guys for the info.

Well i want to get the ''stanced'' look, I think thats same as flush, but i still want to keep a bit of space between the wheels and fenders, just so i can maybe still get some passangers in the back.

I want to drop it like 6/7cm probably and I want stretched wheels with a 45 height.

Yeah maybe I can roll out the fenders and such, have to find someone who can do that over here professionaly. Depends on how much money I can get in the future :D If thats the case then Ill probably get the 15x8 in the back!

I personally think that'll be the best looking part of it.

Should I also get a camber kit? if so, how much degrees?

[1.5]

"Stanced" can be flush or hella flush or poked.

With a gap between the fender/tire you will have what I can mexipoke. Basically the wheels will sit outside the fenders but without the drop to make it look proper.

2.5-3" (6-7cm) is a decent drop. What size tire width. 45 is a lot different height when you're talking a 165/45 compared to a 205/45. That should give the gap you are looking for though.

Rolling/pulling requires no professional skill. Take a baseball bat and heat gun and basically just smash the inner lip formed by the fender folding in.

No camber in the rear for me but I do run -1.25 degrees up front. That will help alleviate some rubbing.

[DeathBeard]

Do you only like xxr's? Several wheel mfr's are offering 15x8 with 35mm offset which is obviously easier to fit than 15mm.. You can run more negative camber in the front by switching to OEM camber bolt and running washers in the rear

[cali yaris]

It requires SOME kind of skill though. I did mine at the track and got a lot of cracked paint. So there must be a "right and wrong" way to do it.

Rolling/pulling requires no professional skill. Take a baseball bat and heat gun and basically just smash the inner lip formed by the fender folding in.

[vten]

G-ammo, with the wheel you choose and without rolling your fender,I would do with the 15x7 all around +15 and use 175/45/15 if you can find them, I think you should be alright.

But if you choose the 8" with the +0 offset, you will definitely need to do a serious mods for a flush setting .

[b20vteg]

15x8 +0 is freaking hardcore...

[1.5]

That would poke a half inch further out than mine! Do it.

[yarisugi]

More for your reference.

[G-Ammo]

Thank you guys very much! And by the looks of the 15x7 +10 in the pics, I think ill just get the 15x7 +15 all around. Then maybe I can drop some more and still prevent alot of rubbing and also to prevent future high costs!

This car is still my daily ride... making an average of 10.000/15.000KM a year.

And I do like some camber yes... my bro says they're called ''camber plates'', not sure if its the same as camber bolts though. I'll have to look that all up (or you guys can explain a bit to me :D)

Also a little question besides this: Im still not sure if I would get the XXR513 in gunmetal color.. or fully silver. My car has the exact same color as you yarisugi (silver blue).
Any suggestions? :)

[1.5]

camber plates are not used on our cars. They usually surround the top mount.

Our fronts use bolts and the rears would require shims.

[G-Ammo]

ok thanks :)

[david_827]

Originally Posted by 1.5

Here are pics showing my drop and my poke. Again almost no rubbing on all 4 corners. My frame/bumper rubs the ground all day though.

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DAMN! thats low, i WISH i could go that low

[1.5]

lol I am trying to challenge yarisugi but he is on air

[G-Ammo]

Guys :P sorry for coming back again... can anyone please suggest which color rims i should pick? gunmetal or fully silver. Car = same color as yarisugi. Really can't decide... im like: 45% for gunmetal... 55 for silver :(

Oh yeah... Yarisugi, I can see that the 15x8 +20 are sticking out pretty far, does this mean that my 15x8 +0 will stick out even more... :O?

much appreciated!