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sqcomp · 04-18-2011, 08:11 PM

Wow...that looks strangely familiar...

wrap the mids in a towel so you kill the back wave and see if anything changes. We'll start moving little bits at a time after that.

Oh! What drop do you have on your Yaris? Where's you get the eyelids?

derickveliz2 · 04-19-2011, 12:47 AM

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What drop do you have on your Yaris? Where's you get the eyelids?

NF210 for a mild drop and comfortable ride, Garm from (micro image) for the eyelids too!

D.

sqcomp · 04-19-2011, 01:19 AM

I'll have to shoot Garm a message on the lids. I'll be dropping mine conservatively soon.

Oh...I'm picking up a silver disc K2HD 24 bit/100kHz version of, "Jazz at the Pawnshop". I'll get you a copy of it so you can reference off of...

...If you can even stand jazz...

The Over the Rainbow and Take Five tracks are spectacular, needless to say the rest is just as good.

^Some cool looking speakers!

derickveliz2 · 04-21-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

I'll have to shoot Garm a message on the lids. I'll be dropping mine conservatively soon.

Oh...I'm picking up a silver disc K2HD 24 bit/100kHz version of, "Jazz at the Pawnshop". I'll get you a copy of it so you can reference off of...

...If you can even stand jazz...

I used to not like it!

But our head units make all kind of magic sound spectacular!

Thank you! That would be great!

D.

sqcomp · 04-21-2011, 11:56 PM

I received the album today...I'm listening to it.

What you should expect is a very comfortable five piece jazz group in a VERY small jazz club. The club was so small that the recording engineer had to put the reel to reel recorder on his lap with no console!

You should enjoy the ambiance and musicality of these recordings.

derickveliz2 · 04-24-2011, 11:35 PM

I'm overwhelmed, many angles and aiming positions with the MIDs, technical tracks sound pretty good, some songs sound great! what sounds best??? it's hard to tell.

In other hand I moved my IDQ12 back to the trunk (just for a couple of days)
I just want to put it back up-front again.

I did try the PB amp in other position and I still get the noise.

It's getting warm over here, so that's good news!

D.

sqcomp · 04-25-2011, 12:37 AM

I'm thinking it's time to send the amp back to Jim. We'll get you covered...

sqcomp · 04-25-2011, 12:49 AM

A lot of the fun starts when you work on the tune...

Remember order of operations though! Can you tell me what the proper order of tuning is?

derickveliz2 · 04-25-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

A lot of the fun starts when you work on the tune...

Remember order of operations though! Can you tell me what the proper order of tuning is?

What are you talking about LOL,... Maybe I'm doing everything upside down...

Please tell me the answer(s) before I go nuts with Google!

At least I may know what I'm doing is not stupid...

D.

sqcomp · 04-25-2011, 01:24 AM

There's a certain order that creates the most success in a tune...

It' won't necessarily be on google. :)

This is where I torture you hanging the answer over your head for a little bit.

derickveliz2 · 04-25-2011, 01:29 AM

OK, lets try...

1. set x-over points and dBs
2. TA
3. EQ

Just to throw some thing...

D.

sqcomp · 04-25-2011, 03:55 PM

You're almost there!

crossover

phasing

amplitude level

time alignment

equalization

Take a little time to research the different effects that your slopes that you choose will have on phasing.

derickveliz2 · 04-25-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

You're almost there!

Take a little time to research the different effects that your slopes that you choose will have on phasing.

crossover DONE,

phasing A LITTLE HARD BUT DID IT

amplitude level WHAT DOES THIS MEANS?

time alignment WORKING ON IT

equalization FUN AND WORKING ON IT

D.

sqcomp · 04-25-2011, 07:06 PM

When you put the dB level as a choice. That's amplitude in this case. You recall what your p99 crossover slopes can do...that includes adjusting the signal Voltage for each preout which is nice.

sqcomp · 04-25-2011, 08:52 PM

There is also another technique that is a bit more advanced...

I may let you in on that one in a few months. We'll see how I do in Calgary...

derickveliz2 · 04-26-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

When you put the dB level as a choice. That's amplitude in this case. You recall what your p99 crossover slopes can do...that includes adjusting the signal Voltage for each preout which is nice.

Ohh! yes! I know what you are talking about, I use it to bump up/down the Sub once in a while between songs.

Talking about "Aiming" I've been going nuts with my MIDs, but when that happens I turn "OFF" Time Alingment and that reminds me why struggle so much with this,there are a couple of sweet spots but in general they sound so good (off-axis).

I'm leaning more in a position similar of your L4s, but just a tad more into the cabin 2 or 3 degrees and I would like to sink the Mids as much as possible into the a-pillars separating them apart.

What about the Tweeters?
How did you came up with your aiming? it's very agressive towards the windshiled!

D.

sqcomp · 04-26-2011, 07:02 PM

The tweeters for me are an afterthought. Most of the work of reproducing sound is done by the mids. The tweeters are there for top end "air". The aiming is a result of the same effect of the mids. It's about imaging for me. I can get the sparkle and air without the tweeters being too bright (i.e.-on axis).

...Scott also suggested I try the off axis setup...

derickveliz2 · 05-09-2011, 12:58 AM

This is what I've been waiting for...

LINK to Video I6SW!

D.

04-18-2011, 08:11 PM	#1225
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Wow...that looks strangely familiar... wrap the mids in a towel so you kill the back wave and see if anything changes. We'll start moving little bits at a time after that. Oh! What drop do you have on your Yaris? Where's you get the eyelids? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-19-2011, 01:19 AM	#1227
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I'll have to shoot Garm a message on the lids. I'll be dropping mine conservatively soon. Oh...I'm picking up a silver disc K2HD 24 bit/100kHz version of, "Jazz at the Pawnshop". I'll get you a copy of it so you can reference off of... ...If you can even stand jazz... The Over the Rainbow and Take Five tracks are spectacular, needless to say the rest is just as good. ^Some cool looking speakers! __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-21-2011, 11:56 PM	#1229
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I received the album today...I'm listening to it. What you should expect is a very comfortable five piece jazz group in a VERY small jazz club. The club was so small that the recording engineer had to put the reel to reel recorder on his lap with no console! You should enjoy the ambiance and musicality of these recordings. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-24-2011, 11:35 PM	#1230
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I'm overwhelmed, many angles and aiming positions with the MIDs, technical tracks sound pretty good, some songs sound great! what sounds best??? it's hard to tell. In other hand I moved my IDQ12 back to the trunk (just for a couple of days) I just want to put it back up-front again. I did try the PB amp in other position and I still get the noise. It's getting warm over here, so that's good news! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

04-25-2011, 12:37 AM	#1231
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I'm thinking it's time to send the amp back to Jim. We'll get you covered... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-25-2011, 12:49 AM	#1232
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	A lot of the fun starts when you work on the tune... Remember order of operations though! Can you tell me what the proper order of tuning is? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-25-2011, 01:24 AM	#1234
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	There's a certain order that creates the most success in a tune... It' won't necessarily be on google. :) This is where I torture you hanging the answer over your head for a little bit. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-25-2011, 01:29 AM	#1235
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	OK, lets try... 1. set x-over points and dBs 2. TA 3. EQ Just to throw some thing... D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

04-25-2011, 03:55 PM	#1236
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	You're almost there! crossover phasing amplitude level time alignment equalization Take a little time to research the different effects that your slopes that you choose will have on phasing. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-25-2011, 07:06 PM	#1238
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	When you put the dB level as a choice. That's amplitude in this case. You recall what your p99 crossover slopes can do...that includes adjusting the signal Voltage for each preout which is nice. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-25-2011, 08:52 PM	#1239
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	There is also another technique that is a bit more advanced... I may let you in on that one in a few months. We'll see how I do in Calgary... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-26-2011, 07:02 PM	#1241
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	The tweeters for me are an afterthought. Most of the work of reproducing sound is done by the mids. The tweeters are there for top end "air". The aiming is a result of the same effect of the mids. It's about imaging for me. I can get the sparkle and air without the tweeters being too bright (i.e.-on axis). ...Scott also suggested I try the off axis setup... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

05-09-2011, 12:58 AM	#1242
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	This is what I've been waiting for... LINK to Video I6SW! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

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