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sqcomp · 05-09-2011, 02:18 AM

Do you want to make that enclosure or do you want us to? That's the hard thing for you...it's a T/L enclosure. Right now we're still playing around with how to get these little woofers to give BIG impact. They sound spectacular but the output isn't as much as we'd like.

It's simply not a slap it in and let it go woofer.

derickveliz2 · 05-11-2011, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Do you want to make that enclosure or do you want us to? That's the hard thing for you...it's a T/L enclosure. Right now we're still playing around with how to get these little woofers to give BIG impact. They sound spectacular but the output isn't as much as we'd like.

It's simply not a slap it in and let it go woofer.

I understand, even the IDQ12 woofer changes so much by moving it around and aiming that in some scenarios will disappoint me and others shines like no other; my guess is that I'm going to build a box(es) my self, it's going to be like "Form follows function" instead of "Function follows Form".

I will supply .35 cubic fit with 2" Diameter 16" long vent , like HAT shows in their website, as a starting point and see what happens?

I'm sorry for the slow return, I got a new (temporally job in the IT area) with lots of commute, and some other photo projects, keeping me very busy and no time for my hobby/passion.

D.

sqcomp · 05-12-2011, 02:01 AM

Job and family come first bro!

Like I mentioned in XBR's post, I've got a GREAT solution to IB the L6's.

Check this out:

You know the plastic insert mounts that the styrofoam goes into on our floor boards?

Use a flat blade screwdriver or panel popper and pop that bad boy out.

It gives is a 10"^2 aread for the L6's to vent! WOOT!

Take out your kicks, mark the area where that hole is, make the cut in the bottom of the pod. Before you put the pod back in, put some polyfill into the hole. It's a crumple zone that remains more dry than the doors do. I'd place a thin gasket around the hole and replace the kick pod. The mid bass response should be remarkable at this point, especially versus a sealed enclosure.

...and let the magic happen!

derickveliz2 · 05-12-2011, 03:27 AM

Yes, I've been there before! and I was going to vent that way too, but since the idea of an I6SW would go on the floor, the kick panels (right side) would have to move out to leave space for the little woofer, a give & take so I gave up kick panels, and the L6's will go in the OEM door locations.

Lets get all the info/photos for your diagram with new equipment and we'll finish it up.

D.

sqcomp · 05-12-2011, 03:34 AM

I don't see any pics of the Voce amps out yet. The Bit One is a different story. You can Google images for that.

derickveliz2 · 05-16-2011, 01:40 AM

Did any body notice some new cars have tweeters at the A-pillars and are kind of aiming at the center of the windshield? away from the listeners? I know Sqcomp has his tweeters that way, I did try to aim my Mids and surprisingly it gets a very good Image and depth specially the vocals right in the middle of the dashboard, but the with of the stage compromises a little bit... I'm realizing that instead of dealing with bad reflexions from the windshield they are trying to take advantage.

Working on some new rings for my Mids, and trying to fit the grill that comes with the HL-70 for a different look... I just want to use the middle part witch is Silver, I'll take my own pictures tomorrow...

D.

sqcomp · 05-16-2011, 08:12 PM

It's something that can be worked on for stage width...I know how to improve the stage width while even improving depth from the way I have it now. The thing is, that proverbial next step is a BIG one. If I wanted to keep the pillars similar to how they are now, I'd simply shrink the mids down in there more since I'm using a neo magnet speaker. I MIGHT aim them more on axis next time. I'm talking only something like 15 degrees more on axis than they are now.

derickveliz2 · 05-17-2011, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

If I wanted to keep the pillars similar to how they are now, I'd simply shrink the mids down in there more. I MIGHT aim them more on axis next time. I'm talking only something like 15 degrees more on axis than they are now.

So you would install them as far apart as possible? more distance between each mid?

Are you planing on redoing your front stage? in a very different way?

D.

derickveliz2 · 05-17-2011, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Working on some new rings for my Mids, and trying to fit the grill that comes with the HL-70 for a different look... I just want to use the middle part witch is Silver, I'll take my own pictures tomorrow...
D.

D.

sqcomp · 05-17-2011, 09:09 PM

Is that balsa wood you're using for the surround on the ring?

derickveliz2 · 05-17-2011, 10:46 PM

It's 1/32 Plywood, and I made a sandwich of 3 layers, very strong, very light and small. My idea is to make it as small as possible to sink the baffle in the A-pillar.

D.

derickveliz2 · 05-20-2011, 02:25 AM

A little bit of progress... It's ready to cover, also I did aim the tweeter in the same angle as the Mids... so far sounds pretty good.

D.

TOLMACH · 05-20-2011, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

It's 1/32 Plywood, and I made a sandwich of 3 layers, very strong, very light and small. My idea is to make it as small as possible to sink the baffle in the A-pillar.

D.

Thanks

Is is easy to buy such 1/32 Plywood ?

sickpuppy1 · 05-20-2011, 08:43 AM

And Derick, please tell me you going to remove that speaker from the ring before you start schlepping fiberglass or whatever around that thing, right??!! LOL

derickveliz2 · 05-20-2011, 08:45 AM

I get mine at a local hobby store, but I've seen it online HERE and it may be in many other places, its a very common material to build R/C airplanes.

D.

derickveliz2 · 05-20-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

And Derick, please tell me you going to remove that speaker from the ring before you start schlepping fiberglass or whatever around that thing, right??!! LOL

Sounds like a good idea!,

I still have to get the other side at this level, then I'll drive around a few days to make sure the aiming is "ok" for me.

Actually I'm going to use CA+Kicker over speaker grill to create the shape, again, keep it light but strong. (that's from r/c airplanes, every thing has to be strong but keep it light so still flies)

D.

TOLMACH · 05-20-2011, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

I get mine at a local hobby store, but I've seen it online HERE and it may be in many other places, its a very common material to build R/C airplanes.

D.

thanks!

derickveliz2 · 05-22-2011, 11:49 PM

OK, I just got a RTA...!

How do I use it? any body knows a link with a "How to use RTA in a Yaris"? LOL

D.

05-09-2011, 02:18 AM	#1243
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Do you want to make that enclosure or do you want us to? That's the hard thing for you...it's a T/L enclosure. Right now we're still playing around with how to get these little woofers to give BIG impact. They sound spectacular but the output isn't as much as we'd like. It's simply not a slap it in and let it go woofer. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

05-12-2011, 02:01 AM	#1245
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Job and family come first bro! Like I mentioned in XBR's post, I've got a GREAT solution to IB the L6's. Check this out: You know the plastic insert mounts that the styrofoam goes into on our floor boards? Use a flat blade screwdriver or panel popper and pop that bad boy out. It gives is a 10"^2 aread for the L6's to vent! WOOT! Take out your kicks, mark the area where that hole is, make the cut in the bottom of the pod. Before you put the pod back in, put some polyfill into the hole. It's a crumple zone that remains more dry than the doors do. I'd place a thin gasket around the hole and replace the kick pod. The mid bass response should be remarkable at this point, especially versus a sealed enclosure. ...and let the magic happen! __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

05-12-2011, 03:27 AM	#1246
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Yes, I've been there before! and I was going to vent that way too, but since the idea of an I6SW would go on the floor, the kick panels (right side) would have to move out to leave space for the little woofer, a give & take so I gave up kick panels, and the L6's will go in the OEM door locations. Lets get all the info/photos for your diagram with new equipment and we'll finish it up. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

05-12-2011, 03:34 AM	#1247
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I don't see any pics of the Voce amps out yet. The Bit One is a different story. You can Google images for that. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

05-16-2011, 01:40 AM	#1248
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Did any body notice some new cars have tweeters at the A-pillars and are kind of aiming at the center of the windshield? away from the listeners? I know Sqcomp has his tweeters that way, I did try to aim my Mids and surprisingly it gets a very good Image and depth specially the vocals right in the middle of the dashboard, but the with of the stage compromises a little bit... I'm realizing that instead of dealing with bad reflexions from the windshield they are trying to take advantage. Working on some new rings for my Mids, and trying to fit the grill that comes with the HL-70 for a different look... I just want to use the middle part witch is Silver, I'll take my own pictures tomorrow... D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

05-16-2011, 08:12 PM	#1249
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	It's something that can be worked on for stage width...I know how to improve the stage width while even improving depth from the way I have it now. The thing is, that proverbial next step is a BIG one. If I wanted to keep the pillars similar to how they are now, I'd simply shrink the mids down in there more since I'm using a neo magnet speaker. I MIGHT aim them more on axis next time. I'm talking only something like 15 degrees more on axis than they are now. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

05-17-2011, 09:09 PM	#1252
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Is that balsa wood you're using for the surround on the ring? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

05-17-2011, 10:46 PM	#1253
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	It's 1/32 Plywood, and I made a sandwich of 3 layers, very strong, very light and small. My idea is to make it as small as possible to sink the baffle in the A-pillar. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

05-20-2011, 02:25 AM	#1254
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	A little bit of progress... It's ready to cover, also I did aim the tweeter in the same angle as the Mids... so far sounds pretty good. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

05-20-2011, 08:43 AM	#1256
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	And Derick, please tell me you going to remove that speaker from the ring before you start schlepping fiberglass or whatever around that thing, right??!! LOL __________________

05-20-2011, 08:45 AM	#1257
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I get mine at a local hobby store, but I've seen it online HERE and it may be in many other places, its a very common material to build R/C airplanes. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

05-22-2011, 11:49 PM	#1260
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	OK, I just got a RTA...! How do I use it? any body knows a link with a "How to use RTA in a Yaris"? LOL D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

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