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Old 10-10-2018, 11:43 PM   #1
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Drivers Over-Rely on Safety Tech...

Interesting read here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/car-...cid=spartanntp
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:40 PM   #2
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Reminds me of what the guy that bumped into my car said on the night of the incident.

"It's dark and the car's black, so I couldn't see it in my reverse camera!"

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Old 10-11-2018, 07:10 PM   #3
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The idiocracy trudges onward.
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Old 10-14-2018, 08:54 AM   #4
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Have you ever driven a car from the 1980s or 90s recently? The lack of safety equipment makes you damn sure that you drive defensively.
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Old 10-14-2018, 09:47 AM   #5
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And the decline of competent drivers continues...

Always amazes me at how new tech comes out offering false promises of increased safety while data often soon follows showing the opposite to be true.

Red light cameras anyone?...
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Old 10-14-2018, 06:06 PM   #6
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i know i drive faster than i safely should after a fresh coat of rain-x. i have been reminded several times...
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:13 AM   #7
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It might be worthwhile if all this new tech lived up to its claims.

I still like a couple of bumper stickers I saw on Youtube:

"Smile, you're on Tailgater Cam" and
"Sorry for driving so close in front of you".
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For many, driving has simply become something you do while you focus on doing far more important things.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:02 PM   #9
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I'm pretty happy with the safety tech in my new Rav 4 (2018 Hybrid XLE). It was a huge reason why we purchased it instead of a slightly older one.
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:05 AM   #10
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For many, driving has simply become something you do while you focus on doing far more important things.
Updating Social Media?? Taking Selfies? Texting?

There was a campaign here a while back with the slogan "M8 it can w8". The idea being that if you are driving, you should be concentrating on driving.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:42 AM   #11
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Updating Social Media?? Taking Selfies? Texting?


selfishness self- centeredness that we think is the root of our troubles

me me me all the time
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:45 AM   #12
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I'm pretty happy with the safety tech in my new Rav 4 (2018 Hybrid XLE). It was a huge reason why we purchased it instead of a slightly older one.
I'm not sure anyone is saying it's inherently bad. I think the argument being made is that too many folks get lazy and completely rely on it rather than practice normal safety measures with the tech as added measures.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:48 PM   #13
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I'm not sure anyone is saying it's inherently bad.
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Old 10-16-2018, 04:15 PM   #14
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the only safety item is good driver sense skill and knowing how to drive properly. i can take a 40mph bend at 80mph in my yaris. :P
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:50 PM   #15
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Consumers are basically being forced to subsidize the costs of developing 'safety systems' that are really only needed in autonomous vehicles. In regular cars, these systems are just complexity-adding gimmicks that will cost owners extra money in purchase/repairs over the lifetime ownership experience of the vehicle and allow certain types of drivers to dangerously ignore (or not even learn) defensive driving skills in favor of stupid, frivolous distractions.

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Old 10-17-2018, 09:30 PM   #16
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There was a campaign here a while back with the slogan "M8 it can w8".
see, i'm so old, that when i read this, my mind went to a BMW M8 and a Volkswagen w8. (passat in this case) i was really confused and had to actually say it out loud to understand what it means.
then i seen you were from AUS and it all came together. had i been in my car i might have crashed from all the confusion...
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Old 10-18-2018, 02:50 AM   #17
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Sorry to cause confusion.

You wouldn't seriously be looking at Yarisworld while driving would you?
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Old 10-18-2018, 05:28 AM   #18
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Consumers are basically being forced to subsidize the costs of developing 'safety systems' that are really only needed in autonomous vehicles. In regular cars, these systems are just complexity-adding gimmicks that will cost owners extra money in purchase/repairs over the lifetime ownership experience of the vehicle and allow certain types of drivers to dangerously ignore (or not even learn) defensive driving skills in favor of stupid, frivolous distractions.

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