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Old 12-30-2008, 11:53 PM   #1
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Coolant Service

I am at over 80K miles on my car original coolant, bought a tester, and took a sample from the radiator cap, its clear as can be and tested -45 freeze point. So am I good for a bit longer? or is there something that is not known about the coolant that maybe I should still consider changing it now? They (valvoline) said I could bring in Toyota Coolant and they can flush it with Toyota coolant they said to bring 6 to 7 gallons, does this sound right? also do you think they should discount my $79 service any for bringing my own coolant, what is a fair amount to request?

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Old 12-31-2008, 04:00 AM   #2
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Changing coolant is a good idea as it can become corrosive and lose its lubricating properties after a few years resulting in premature wear in hoses and water pump. 6-7 gallons i would assume to mean an already premixed solution of 50/50 coolant to water as there is no way your cooling system is going to hold 12-14 gallons.they should discount the cost of the coolant you brought with you.
Personally i'd either do the whole job at Toyota or at the Valvoline place as most coolants are compatible with most cars and the stuff Toyota is using is nothing special as they arent in the business of making coolant so they may even be using valvoline coolant.
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Old 12-31-2008, 06:30 PM   #3
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It's good for 120,000 miles. The system holds less than 2 gallons. Toyota Pink comes pre-diluted at $25 a gallon.
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:40 PM   #4
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It's good for 120,000 miles. The system holds less than 2 gallons. Toyota Pink comes pre-diluted at $25 a gallon.
correct. how many times are they gonna flush your radiator with 6 or 7 gallons
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$25/gallon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-01-2009, 05:31 PM   #6
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Okay, so let me ask this, if the Toyota coolant is good for up to 120,000 miles and I had this impression that at least 100,000 miles. I know there is a lot of people that say Coolant should be done every 30,000 miles maybe on other vehicles, is it the coolant being used then, will the Valvoline require more frequent changes going forward or can I go another 80,000 comfortably with what they use or is that a question to ask them, even though they are in it to make money.
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Old 01-01-2009, 08:27 PM   #7
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I have compared the components of many different coolants and Toyota Pink coolant is indeed unique in that it contains some type of organic acids used as anti-corrosives. I don't have a bottle in front of me so I can't name them... Anyway, Toyota Pink is probably best, but many others can be used so long as they are phosphate/silicate free (as per the owners manual). In fact I have used Prestone extended life (yellow) with no problems. Your choice...
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Old 01-01-2009, 10:35 PM   #8
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Wow....just hit 10K in my 07HB, all this info ahead of time is appreciated.
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Old 01-01-2009, 11:38 PM   #9
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Okay, so let me ask this, if the Toyota coolant is good for up to 120,000 miles and I had this impression that at least 100,000 miles. I know there is a lot of people that say Coolant should be done every 30,000 miles maybe on other vehicles, is it the coolant being used then, will the Valvoline require more frequent changes going forward or can I go another 80,000 comfortably with what they use or is that a question to ask them, even though they are in it to make money.
Well if the factory pink coolant in your vehicle may be good to 120,000 miles, but the replacement pink coolant will not have a service life of another 120,000 miles (it will be less). Take a look at the service schedule in the manual.

So if you replace the Toyota pink coolant with some other stuff (Valvoline), the service life of the coolant will be further reduced from Toyota's recommendation, as I'm sure that Valvoline recommends a shorter service life. This is assuming that the Valvoline stuff is chemically compatible with the Yaris.

I would buy two gallons of the premixed pink stuff from Toyota and have the shop use that. An even better plan is to just do it yourself, as the shop will probably just drain the radiator and then just fill it back up.
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Old 01-01-2009, 11:41 PM   #10
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This is what Toyota actually says about the coolant...

"Initial replacement at 100,000 miles/120 months. Replace every 50,000 miles/60 months thereafter."
I also dug this up...
"Toyota is equipped with Genuine Toyota Super Long-Life Coolant. The replacement intervals for engine coolant recommended in this booklet are based on replacement with Genuine Toyota Super Long-Life Coolant or similar high-quality non-silicate, non-amine, non-borate ethylene-glycol coolant with long-life hybrid organic acid technology (i.e. a combination of low phosphates and organic acid). If another type of ethylene-glycol coolant is used, replacement intervals may be different."

I take back what I said about the shop only doing a radiator drain a fill since they told you to bring in 6 to 7 gallons. I would still do it myself... and if the shop ends up doing it, make sure you watch them.

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Old 01-12-2009, 06:48 PM   #11
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wow...$25.00/gal?

our dealer here on Guam sells it for $31.77...wth?!

btw i have about 11.230 miles on my 08...is it normal for he coolant to be on a "low" level? ive had oil changes on regular basis every 3 months...and within those oil changes they claim it was "ok". now its low thats why i never bothered to check it till yesturday..

and is it a must to use the pink coolant? its so expensive...

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Old 01-12-2009, 09:48 PM   #12
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wow...$25.00/gal?

our dealer here on Guam sells it for $31.77...wth?!

btw i have about 11.230 miles on my 08...is it normal for he coolant to be on a "low" level? ive had oil changes on regular basis every 3 months...and within those oil changes they claim it was "ok". now its low thats why i never bothered to check it till yesturday..

and is it a must to use the pink coolant? its so expensive...
Just take it to the dealer and they'll top it up, probably for free...
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:24 AM   #13
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cool...ill bring it by tomorrow.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:11 AM   #14
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cool...ill bring it by tomorrow.
they aren't going to top it with coolant just so you know.....
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Old 01-13-2009, 02:10 PM   #15
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they aren't going to top it with coolant just so you know.....
Why? If they don't they are a cheap ass dealer and I would go elsewhere...
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:28 PM   #16
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Hopefully they will (or maybe they already did) drain the block at the same time. At 80K this isn't really a job for a flush machine, unless they needed 6 gallons to fill up their tank for free. It's pretty much an easy DIY project.

2 gallons of Toyota pink premix should do it, drain the radiator and block. Attach a short hose to make things a little less messy if you want. There's actually a little spout on the back of the block to make things easier.
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Old 02-07-2009, 11:48 AM   #17
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In the repair manual it appears the coolant drain cock is located high on the engine, from my undert-standing, it should be low on the car and probably by the exhaust, does anyone have a picture of this plug or bolt and it location on the Yaris? I have a 2007 A/T sedan. I would like to do this drain and refill this weekend. but realized there is one more plug I will be after besides the one on the radiator itself. and is there any gasket on these plugs or nuts that I should get a replacement gasket from the dealer? The burping process seems trouble-free. Ron
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Why? If they don't they are a cheap ass dealer and I would go elsewhere...
I mean they most likely will fill with tap water, not coolant....
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