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slothman86 · 11-15-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by viborg

He he he...Well I'm from Denmark and the feroe island is pretty far away from Denmark, and don't you ever call a dane for a feroeing!!!
They have they culture habeits and we have ours.

nice first post!

for reference

slothman86 · 11-15-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tomato

liberals blah, blah, blah ... conservatives, blah, blah, blah ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

and this is related to the OP's topic how?

I guess it was trying to find whether the killing the dolphins is wrong or right. According to liberals "BE NICE TO DEM THAR WHALES" according to Conservatives "WHALES TASTES GOODS, GO 'HEAD AND KILLEM"

something like that...?

but srsly, they probably only kill...0.001% of the population of the whales each year... If the whales are endangered...this isn't the reason

778,000 in the north atlantic, 1,000 killed a year

NOTE: Just looked up the endangered species list and threatened list, the whales are on the threatened list only...

why? · 11-15-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by slothman86

I guess it was trying to find whether the killing the dolphins is wrong or right. According to liberals "BE NICE TO DEM THAR WHALES" according to Conservatives "WHALES TASTES GOODS, GO 'HEAD AND KILLEM"

something like that...?

but srsly, they probably only kill...0.001% of the population of the whales each year... If the whales are endangered...this isn't the reason

778,000 in the north atlantic, 1,000 killed a year

NOTE: Just looked up the endangered species list and threatened list, the whales are on the threatened list only...

I wouldn't say that. Unnecessary murder and cruelty is wrong, plain and simple.

However, things like this are set up to evoke specific emotional responses, while the majority of the time being completely manipulated, if not outright faked. They are weapons used to make people or groups look bad, because the people that do this know the majority of viewers will not take the time to do background research.

I'm just saying that people need to arm themselves with the facts before going nuts with calling people evil.

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Originally Posted by 2+2

What are talking about? Are you poking fun at liberals for not having the nads to say they're liberal and have to resort to calling themselves progressive? I'm fairly liberal and I agree with you. It's cowardly. Are you poking fun at Hillary? Probably not a good target, she's hardly someone I'd like to cozy up to but at least she's got nads (unlike 90% of the people in her political party).

Early 20th century what? You totally lost me there.

I'm actually talking about facts. Simple as that. In general people who call themselves liberal or progressive do not take the time to know any facts, but instead go by how something makes them feel.

Hillary Clinton is a great target, because she's been pretty darn honest in what she wants. She doesn't hide behind anything, and tells people flat out she is a socialist. The term progressive comes from the early 20th century American politics. It was a bunch of people that had no bones idolizing mussolini and hitler before WW2.

Only thing I am saying is that you should learn the history of what you believe in, not just take it at face value.

slothman86 · 11-15-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by why?

I wouldn't say that. Unnecessary murder and cruelty is wrong, plain and simple.

However, things like this are set up to evoke specific emotional responses, while the majority of the time being completely manipulated, if not outright faked. They are weapons used to make people or groups look bad, because the people that do this know the majority of viewers will not take the time to do background research.

I'm just saying that people need to arm themselves with the facts before going nuts with calling people evil.

I agree also you shouldn't just kill things for the fun of it. I don't think anyone here would have a problem with smashing a mosquito tho...would they?

Yeah. they take an event like this one a totally play on the nuances of peoples cultures.

We call this inhumane? I dunno about that.Well the process of killing the whales involves severing the spinal cord close to the brain stem. I really can't think of anything more humane than this...Without totally obliterating the whale. They got rid of the harpoons in the 1990's because of this. The whales usually die in seconds to minutes.

Kaotic Lazagna · 11-15-2009, 08:03 PM

Nice first post, viborg. I didn't realize Feroe Islands was that far from Denmark.

Oh, and just to be clear again, it was not me who said "Denmark is a shame." That was just in the email sent to me. Also, I don't really focus on Denmark as much as I focus on the group of people who do it. It could be my country for all that matters. I still wouldn't like it. However, I do see you guys posts.

As for the liberals and conservatives topic, I'm not going to comment since that's way off-topic.

I've also read that the whales and dolphins were used for food, which if they are one of their main food sources (which I've also read that they have more than enough food to live off of without this whale killing), I'll understand, but what I don't understand is the horrible way of killing them.

Kaotic Lazagna · 11-15-2009, 08:04 PM

May be I'm weird, but I won't even kill a spider if I see one unless it's going after me (which is never most of the time). hahaha.

slothman86 · 11-15-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

May be I'm weird, but I won't even kill a spider if I see one unless it's going after me (which is never most of the time). hahaha.

Yeah me too. Even if it's in my house (or unless my wife calls me to smash it)

I love life just as much as the next person. It's very interesting and amazing.

Even though it might seem that killing these whales is brutal, It's probably among the most "humane" killings in the world. Ever watch the discovery channel? It seems the lions don't give a shit how they kill you.

Kaotic Lazagna · 11-15-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slothman86

Yeah me too. Even if it's in my house (or unless my wife calls me to smash it)

I love life just as much as the next person. It's very interesting and amazing.

Even though it might seem that killing these whales is brutal, It's probably among the most "humane" killings in the world. Ever watch the discovery channel? It seems the lions don't give a shit how they kill you.

hahaha, my gf can call me to kill a spider, and I'll ask if it's bothering her. Usually I get, "No." So I just tell her, "No need to kill it then."

Anywho, yeah, lions go straight for the jugular vein, right? I don't know, something about taking a hook and slicing the whales several times seems horrible to me. Why not use a different tool or a different way that instantly kills the whales if this must go on?

slothman86 · 11-15-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

hahaha, my gf can call me to kill a spider, and I'll ask if it's bothering her. Usually I get, "No." So I just tell her, "No need to kill it then."

Anywho, yeah, lions go straight for the jugular vein, right? I don't know, something about taking a hook and slicing the whales several times seems horrible to me. Why not use a different tool or a different way that instantly kills the whales if this must go on?

Yeah, they usually go for the quickest way, which uses the least amount of energy. Maybe the lion was a bad example. It still takes like a minute, but anyway. Maybe I was thinking about these lions I saw killing a cheetah on tv. It was pretty crazy.

The hook is designed to catch and sever the spinal cord. I've been going over it and it looks pretty cheap and efficient. Maybe a high powered rifle?
It would be just as bad. Like deer hunting. Maybe they should run out and give them a lethal injection...lol

2+2 · 11-16-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by why?

The term progressive comes from the early 20th century American politics. It was a bunch of people that had no bones idolizing mussolini and hitler before WW2.

As people have correctly pointed out this is off topic but I have one quick question. Why would people left of center on the political spectrum (progressives) idolize people that are on the far right (fascists like Mussolini and Hitler)?

specialeducator · 11-16-2009, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 2+2

As people have correctly pointed out this is off topic but I have one quick question. Why would people left of center on the political spectrum (progressives) idolize people that are on the far right (fascists like Mussolini and Hitler)?

We do?

Bob Dog · 11-16-2009, 07:12 AM

What effects my sensibilities is the fact that we as a species are one of the three greatest extinction events in the history of this planet: all those amazing, wonderful and in some cases magnificent creatures that took hundreds of millions of years to evolve, wiped out in a couple hundred years for sake of one rather nasty species overbreeding and induging itself.

EleKid · 11-16-2009, 01:13 PM

This is making me tear up.............

viborg · 11-16-2009, 03:41 PM

To Kaotic Lazagna: Thats okay. You do not need to apologize. Well, the Faroe Islands under Danish law and economic community and that's it. They (Faroes) for many years made it on the way to get the whales into shore and slaughter them. But it comes from the days when they were the only option they have to have meat. Many of their livestock died during the winter.

*tomato* · 11-16-2009, 04:21 PM

Never mind Mussolini and Hitler. Stay on topic guys

why? · 11-16-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2+2

As people have correctly pointed out this is off topic but I have one quick question. Why would people left of center on the political spectrum (progressives) idolize people that are on the far right (fascists like Mussolini and Hitler)?

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Originally Posted by tomato

Never mind Mussolini and Hitler. Stay on topic guys

off topic is fun!!!! But if you insist we should use that open political discussion group that is basically dead, then we will. I'd just love to teach people about the reality of our history.

supmet · 11-16-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Anywho, yeah, lions go straight for the jugular vein, right? I don't know, something about taking a hook and slicing the whales several times seems horrible to me. Why not use a different tool or a different way that instantly kills the whales if this must go on?

No, most felines, play with their prey. You've never seen a cat keep a mouse alive for hours?

And these tools are part of their religion and part of their culture.

I suppose we're going to ban passover next? No putting blood over the door this year... Its just to brutal for the Americans... Why can't they just use corn syrup and food dye like in the movies?

Random fact pulled from the internet:

From 1959 to 1991 an estimated 7,000,000 dolphins were killed by tuna fisherman.

11-16-2009, 04:21 PM	#69
tomato Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 2DR LB 07, MT, Abs. Red Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 5,155	Never mind Mussolini and Hitler. Stay on topic guys __________________ Follow Bamboo the YarisWorld Traveler here

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11-15-2009, 08:03 PM	#59
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	Nice first post, viborg. I didn't realize Feroe Islands was that far from Denmark. Oh, and just to be clear again, it was not me who said "Denmark is a shame." That was just in the email sent to me. Also, I don't really focus on Denmark as much as I focus on the group of people who do it. It could be my country for all that matters. I still wouldn't like it. However, I do see you guys posts. As for the liberals and conservatives topic, I'm not going to comment since that's way off-topic. I've also read that the whales and dolphins were used for food, which if they are one of their main food sources (which I've also read that they have more than enough food to live off of without this whale killing), I'll understand, but what I don't understand is the horrible way of killing them.

11-15-2009, 08:04 PM	#60
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	May be I'm weird, but I won't even kill a spider if I see one unless it's going after me (which is never most of the time). hahaha.

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11-16-2009, 03:41 PM	#68
viborg Drives: Yaris Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Denmark, Aarhus Posts: 6	To Kaotic Lazagna: Thats okay. You do not need to apologize. Well, the Faroe Islands under Danish law and economic community and that's it. They (Faroes) for many years made it on the way to get the whales into shore and slaughter them. But it comes from the days when they were the only option they have to have meat. Many of their livestock died during the winter.