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Old 01-07-2016, 04:35 PM   #145
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have we talked about the Scion IM 6spd and if it would fit the 2ZR?
the question should be would the 6spd fit the Yaris. The iM uses a 2ZR to begin with.
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Old 01-07-2016, 06:43 PM   #146
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have we talked about the Scion IM 6spd and if it would fit the 2ZR?
We have not, but I believe its the same 6spd in the newer corolla....witch has a 2zr also. Im pretty sure its compatible
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:03 PM   #147
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sorry I got lost in the details, I thought the 2zr-fae was different than the 2zr-fe?
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Old 01-08-2016, 08:52 AM   #148
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The only significant difference is they increased compression from 10:1 to 10.5:1(Edit: and Valvematic). Otherwise they are almost identical

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Old 01-08-2016, 08:57 AM   #149
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The only significant difference is they increased compression from 10:1 to 10.5:1. Otherwise they are almost identical
And the MAJOR fact that it uses a different head and valve system to control RPM not a throttle body.
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Old 01-08-2016, 08:58 AM   #150
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sorry I got lost in the details, I thought the 2zr-fae was different than the 2zr-fe?
The blocks should be nearly identical, it's the head and valve train that differ.
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Old 01-08-2016, 10:23 AM   #151
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And the MAJOR fact that it uses a different head and valve system to control RPM not a throttle body.
.... the question was about transmission compatibility haha....but thanks for the info!
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Old 01-08-2016, 06:58 PM   #152
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Started disassembly today
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Old 01-08-2016, 07:04 PM   #153
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Is the car stuck in a lot right now, or is this where you work...??
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Old 01-08-2016, 08:49 PM   #154
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It's an automatic? So sad. =P

On a semi-related note, the engine harness ECU pinout for the xD is wildly different from the Yaris. Like, 99% incompatible. I haven't documented the smaller connector yet, but it will likely be different, too.

The actual component connectors, however, seem to be identical, if named/numbered differently. E.g. the engine bay wire harness ECU connector is C20 in the Yaris, but C19 in the xD.

Edit: just compared the connections on the 60-pin ECU side--about 90% incompatible. Both connectors are incompatible in possibly catastrophic ways for the ECU. Moral of the story: DON'T SWAP ECUs WITHOUT SWAPPING WIRE HARNESSES!

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Old 01-08-2016, 10:19 PM   #155
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Im a Tech at the dealership...

Yes it is a auto, because its my only car and Im not trying to teach my pregnant wife manual.....i have a 5spd on standby for when we have a second car.

We swap everything over from the Xd, EVERYTHING lol.

Regarding the diy...do I need to include pulling the 1nz? Or just the assembly and install of the 2zr?

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Old 01-09-2016, 07:01 AM   #156
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Just a quick question regarding swaps since that's the subject here

Why doesn't anyone swap the 2zz into the yaris?

Edit: the more information the better
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Old 01-09-2016, 08:07 AM   #157
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I think only assembly and install of the 2zr. There are manuals and videos in the web to how dessembly de 1nz.
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Old 01-09-2016, 08:08 AM   #158
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Just a quick question regarding swaps since that's the subject here

Why doesn't anyone swap the 2zz into the yaris?

Edit: the more information the better
It's not a "Bolt In" able swap. You'd need to do some major fabrication to get it to fit.
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Old 01-09-2016, 10:09 AM   #159
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It's not a "Bolt In" able swap. You'd need to do some major fabrication to get it to fit.
That and it's NOT a plug and play for the ECU. Been done with success by some in Europe and Asia. Crazy motor but a big project for those who dare.
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Old 01-09-2016, 01:32 PM   #160
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It's not a "Bolt In" able swap. You'd need to do some major fabrication to get it to fit.
AND the fact that the 2zz is crazy expensive....I actually considered this swap before the 2zr untill I added up all the related costs. $2000+!

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Old 01-09-2016, 11:34 PM   #161
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It's an automatic? So sad. =P

On a semi-related note, the engine harness ECU pinout for the xD is wildly different from the Yaris. Like, 99% incompatible. I haven't documented the smaller connector yet, but it will likely be different, too.

The actual component connectors, however, seem to be identical, if named/numbered differently. E.g. the engine bay wire harness ECU connector is C20 in the Yaris, but C19 in the xD.

Edit: just compared the connections on the 60-pin ECU side--about 90% incompatible. Both connectors are incompatible in possibly catastrophic ways for the ECU. Moral of the story: DON'T SWAP ECUs WITHOUT SWAPPING WIRE HARNESSES!
Huh?............maybe I was drunk with optimism, but I thought it was as simple (basically speaking) as

unplug and remove 1nz
plug and install 2zr

=enjoy 30whp+ gain

whats all this talk about the wiring being 99% incompatible ?????





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Old 01-10-2016, 12:02 AM   #162
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@Crankyoldman was referring to using the 1nz harness on the 2zr. I never once suggested that, Ive said from the beginning to use everything from the 2zr. The 2zr engine harness plugs into the 2zr ecm on one end along with the chassis harness, and it plugs into the fuse box at the other end. Sinmple.
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