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sleey0 · 10-05-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

oversized piston = more displacement = more power.

Thank you, Garm.

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Originally Posted by Nexus1155

You're starting to sound like XBGod, not a bad thing IMO, but sometimes the best of the best is overated. You don't always need the cream of the crop.

If thats what you are going for get some DEFI gauges.

A Mechanical gauge is a mechanical gauge. They all operate the same way. Personally I am a fan of VDO. I have used their boost gauges many of times.

No, xbg has much more money than me. Autometer gauges, not the high end ones, are reasonably priced. So Sunpro - $30, Autometer - $60 = worth it, IMO.

sleey0 · 10-05-2010, 08:52 PM

Ok. Boodt/vac and oil pressure tachs figured out.

Any suggestions on a Tach??

cali yaris · 10-05-2010, 08:52 PM

focus, no one is criticizing you for your build, but I will disagree that "a gauge is a gauge".

Regarding mechanical gauges, I'm not running fuel or oil into my cabin to make a gauge work, so I will stick with my sensors and electric gauges.

sleey0 · 10-05-2010, 09:22 PM

So, now that garrm let me in on that mechanical guage secret, I might go ALL-OUT and go PLX.

Will update soon.

By the time I buy all electrical guages I can get a nice PLX system.

Any1 familiar with PLX and ther sensor module hookuo?

cdydjded · 10-05-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

oversized piston = more displacement = more power.

But it also means the block has to be bored and possibly sleeved. WAY more money than stock sized pistons.

Increasing the bore size from 75mm (stock) to 75.5mm will not add any power. 75.5mm pistons add 19cc's to the engines displacment. That is not significant enough to add more HP or TQ. Yes the block needs to be bored & honed but no it doesnt need to be sleeved. Stock bore pistons & +.5mm pistons cost exacltly the same.

cdydjded · 10-05-2010, 10:42 PM

IMO a meth kit on our engine with stock rods & pistons is not nessesary. It will add more power & put stress on the stock rods & pistons that they cannot handle. Im @ 155hp @ 4-5 lbs of boost & have not had any problems. Sure I can raise the boost & make more power but why? So I can make more power & risk throwing a rod out the side of the block? Garm drove around for 8 months @ 180hp. Thats 90 more whp than stock. IMO thats about as high as you want to go. Any higher, KABOOM.....

sleey0 · 10-05-2010, 10:51 PM

That is why we replace the rods and pistons if you are serious about power and your project.

Good aftermarket pistons/rods can with stand much more stress.

cdydjded · 10-05-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sleey0

That is why we replace the rods and pistons if you are serious about power and your project.

Good aftermarket pistons/rods can with stand much more stress.

Ur not telling me anthing that I or anyone else here dosnt already know. Obvioulsy you can make more power with stronger rods & pistons. And obviously the can handle more power than stock components...

sleey0 · 10-05-2010, 11:08 PM

I know as I am not a big fan on meth.

I'd rather pony up for CP pistons and Crower rods:)

Focus_Sh1ft · 10-05-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

focus, no one is criticizing you for your build, but I will disagree that "a gauge is a gauge".

Yeah I'm not offended or anything. We're all welcome to our opinions, I'm mature enough to deal with people disagreeing with me lol.

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Originally Posted by cdydjded

IMO a meth kit on our engine with stock rods & pistons is not nessesary. It will add more power & put stress on the stock rods & pistons that they cannot handle.

This was a pretty big fear of mine, and one of the reasons why I didn't immediately spring for meth injection. That's just pure speculation at this point though, isn't it?

I could have sworn Morgan or someone ran an SC with meth injection... Can't find info on that now. Anyone know how that went?

sleey0 · 10-05-2010, 11:26 PM

Yeah, but do we KNOW what it does to out engines in terms of damage?

Might be something there.

Besides, pistons/rods is the way to go if you are worried about blowing an engine.

pimp my yaris · 10-06-2010, 12:02 AM

Has anyone poped a stock motor yet???? If so, what kind of boost/horsepower were U making???? I plan on buying a junk yard motor next year and packing it with better internals, but I'm just curious how far the stock motor can be taken. Any one Bueller, Bueller?

sleey0 · 10-06-2010, 12:09 AM

Not too.far.

Somehow garm got 378hp.

Wicked if u ask me lol.

cali yaris · 10-06-2010, 12:28 AM

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I could have sworn Morgan or someone ran an SC with meth injection... Can't find info on that now. Anyone know how that went?

She did, and it cured detonation problems. Meth injection can be used for more mild purposes, guys, not just big power.

cali yaris · 10-06-2010, 12:31 AM

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Garm drove around for 8 months @ 180hp. Thats 90 more whp than stock. IMO thats about as high as you want to go.

Lost just a bit of compression in one cylinder over that time, too. Of course, that was only roughly tuned, so I can't point at a single exact cause.

to answer pimp's question. I don't know anyone who has blown up a 1.5L motor -- although I think Tamago threw a rod, as I recall.

sleey0 · 10-06-2010, 12:35 AM

Ok.

T c injectors or 1zz and why?

PETERPOOP · 10-06-2010, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

^ that's what I have in my car, works 100% and fairly simple. Echo has it in his car too, and Morgan used it on her Frankenstein supercharger install.

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Originally Posted by Focus_Sh1ft

I could have sworn Morgan or someone ran an SC with meth injection... Can't find info on that now. Anyone know how that went?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

She did, and it cured detonation problems. Meth injection can be used for more mild purposes, guys, not just big power.

Easily forgotten... lol

I run meth with a S/C, and I am the only S/C'd yaris that is re-tuned with meth ( let alone re-tuned). I'm running straight meth, no 50/50 mix.

xbgod · 10-06-2010, 12:50 AM

I've blown one of these motors

Was using the Blitz S/C and Nitrous. Forgot to purge the nitrous bottle pressure down before launch and BOOMMMMMM!

Bottle pressure was at 1600 from sitting in the heat needed to be at 1000, but that my own fault. snaped 3 rods and turned the piston 90 deg. in the block. I have the rods and pistons at home as a reminder of what not to do.

You my friend need to just start your build. For someone on a budget your looking at parts that go way beyond your means.

As far as PLX goes I use their AFR gauge it's deadly accurate.

As far as meth goes great way to keep you from detonating and run smoother. You can get an octane rating up to 101 with meth and 93 pump gas. Thats what I've been using. Best bang for the buck. I've switched to a race fuel for this new build but I don't drive this as a DD.

My ride with all that high end fancy shit has put me in the 60,000 price range on my build. But I;ve had the money to play with.

XBG

10-05-2010, 08:52 PM	#38
sleey0 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 899	Ok. Boodt/vac and oil pressure tachs figured out. Any suggestions on a Tach?? __________________ "And that goes for any of you, never get put down from someone who gets jealous of you; build it and prove them wrong. There will always be haters and naysayers but those are also the ones who's cars are worth less than my seats." xbgod - 9/23/2010

10-05-2010, 08:52 PM	#39
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	focus, no one is criticizing you for your build, but I will disagree that "a gauge is a gauge". Regarding mechanical gauges, I'm not running fuel or oil into my cabin to make a gauge work, so I will stick with my sensors and electric gauges. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

10-05-2010, 09:22 PM	#40
sleey0 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 899	So, now that garrm let me in on that mechanical guage secret, I might go ALL-OUT and go PLX. Will update soon. By the time I buy all electrical guages I can get a nice PLX system. Any1 familiar with PLX and ther sensor module hookuo? __________________ "And that goes for any of you, never get put down from someone who gets jealous of you; build it and prove them wrong. There will always be haters and naysayers but those are also the ones who's cars are worth less than my seats." xbgod - 9/23/2010

10-05-2010, 10:51 PM	#43
sleey0 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 899	That is why we replace the rods and pistons if you are serious about power and your project. Good aftermarket pistons/rods can with stand much more stress. __________________ "And that goes for any of you, never get put down from someone who gets jealous of you; build it and prove them wrong. There will always be haters and naysayers but those are also the ones who's cars are worth less than my seats." xbgod - 9/23/2010

10-05-2010, 11:08 PM	#45
sleey0 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 899	I know as I am not a big fan on meth. I'd rather pony up for CP pistons and Crower rods:) __________________ "And that goes for any of you, never get put down from someone who gets jealous of you; build it and prove them wrong. There will always be haters and naysayers but those are also the ones who's cars are worth less than my seats." xbgod - 9/23/2010

10-05-2010, 10:42 PM	#42
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	IMO a meth kit on our engine with stock rods & pistons is not nessesary. It will add more power & put stress on the stock rods & pistons that they cannot handle. Im @ 155hp @ 4-5 lbs of boost & have not had any problems. Sure I can raise the boost & make more power but why? So I can make more power & risk throwing a rod out the side of the block? Garm drove around for 8 months @ 180hp. Thats 90 more whp than stock. IMO thats about as high as you want to go. Any higher, KABOOM.....

10-05-2010, 11:26 PM	#47
sleey0 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 899	Yeah, but do we KNOW what it does to out engines in terms of damage? Might be something there. Besides, pistons/rods is the way to go if you are worried about blowing an engine. __________________ "And that goes for any of you, never get put down from someone who gets jealous of you; build it and prove them wrong. There will always be haters and naysayers but those are also the ones who's cars are worth less than my seats." xbgod - 9/23/2010

10-06-2010, 12:02 AM	#48
pimp my yaris C'est la vie Drives: 2009 2 door hatchback Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: chicago Posts: 482	Has anyone poped a stock motor yet???? If so, what kind of boost/horsepower were U making???? I plan on buying a junk yard motor next year and packing it with better internals, but I'm just curious how far the stock motor can be taken. Any one Bueller, Bueller?

10-06-2010, 12:09 AM	#49
sleey0 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 899	Not too.far. Somehow garm got 378hp. Wicked if u ask me lol. __________________ "And that goes for any of you, never get put down from someone who gets jealous of you; build it and prove them wrong. There will always be haters and naysayers but those are also the ones who's cars are worth less than my seats." xbgod - 9/23/2010

10-06-2010, 12:35 AM	#52
sleey0 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 899	Ok. T c injectors or 1zz and why? __________________ "And that goes for any of you, never get put down from someone who gets jealous of you; build it and prove them wrong. There will always be haters and naysayers but those are also the ones who's cars are worth less than my seats." xbgod - 9/23/2010

10-06-2010, 12:50 AM	#54
xbgod Banned Drives: "Burning It Down GTX2860RS XB" Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 349	I've blown one of these motors Was using the Blitz S/C and Nitrous. Forgot to purge the nitrous bottle pressure down before launch and BOOMMMMMM! Bottle pressure was at 1600 from sitting in the heat needed to be at 1000, but that my own fault. snaped 3 rods and turned the piston 90 deg. in the block. I have the rods and pistons at home as a reminder of what not to do. You my friend need to just start your build. For someone on a budget your looking at parts that go way beyond your means. As far as PLX goes I use their AFR gauge it's deadly accurate. As far as meth goes great way to keep you from detonating and run smoother. You can get an octane rating up to 101 with meth and 93 pump gas. Thats what I've been using. Best bang for the buck. I've switched to a race fuel for this new build but I don't drive this as a DD. My ride with all that high end fancy shit has put me in the 60,000 price range on my build. But I;ve had the money to play with. XBG

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