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08-20-2009, 05:10 PM | #1 |
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Fog lamps as back up low beams.
Is it possible to safely use fog lamps as back up for low beams? I hate one eye monsters. Nether of my Toyota Yarises have fog lamps. If fog lamps can be used as back up for low beams, which fog lamps would be the best choice? OE? LEDS?
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08-20-2009, 05:18 PM | #2 | |
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I would think that if you mounted them in the standard fog lamp position they would be too low to have any effective use as regular headlights. I had a Mustang that I mounted 100w fog lamps on a switch to either side of the pony in the grill to use as headlights since I had headlight covers. They seemed to work but they were real bright, and I only got pulled over once... for forgetting to turn my regular headlights on...! Paid maybe $50 for them. |
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08-20-2009, 07:43 PM | #3 | |
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Plus I suffer from neck, back and shoulder injuries from being hit by a van while in the USAF. So labor cost is also part of my question. If I lived in Maryland, I would just call Pep Boys and make a appointment to get the fog lamps installed. Maybe I should have added a question about where to buy the fog lamp and then have the fog lamps installed. Dealer would be a choice for OE fog lamps. |
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08-20-2009, 07:57 PM | #4 |
The Fog lights Garm sells , are real easy to instal , 98% plug and play
just fit the lights and splice in 2 wires your done . Or you could spend another $170.US approx and buy the OEM Light stalk for the steering colum and be totally plug and play . the whole instal takes about 2 hr's . i would do it for you but your a bit far away . maybe another member on here might be willing to help you out . |
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08-20-2009, 09:35 PM | #5 |
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08-20-2009, 09:59 PM | #6 | |
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or i would be over there already |
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08-20-2009, 08:01 PM | #7 |
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08-20-2009, 08:17 PM | #8 |
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please don't do it. I hate the truck guys who do it. And as said before, police will pull you over for it. I only use it when leaving my apartment complex at night to not shine my lights in my neighbors houses. After it get to the main road, I turn on my headlights.
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08-20-2009, 10:13 PM | #9 |
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I am not talking about a bunch of lights on top of a fake roll bar. My brother had fog lamps installed behind the grill of his Ford Ranger. I forgot about that. Higher but harder to install. But the fog lamp would have to put out about the same lumes and cover about the same area as low beams to do what I want. Fog lamps with the same output as high beam head lights would not be what I want. The built in mounts for OE equipment is not the only place I could mount the fog lights.
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08-20-2009, 05:29 PM | #11 |
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Police officers I know will pull someone over for using foglights as headlights in town at night, and will possibly give a ticket for it.
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08-20-2009, 09:44 PM | #12 |
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You talking about those LED circle after market head light assembly I seen on the Internet? Or LED lights to be placed where the fog lamps are placed?
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08-23-2009, 02:27 AM | #13 |
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I don't think fog lights will work as a backup... My old grand am had fog lights and the switch for the head lights went out, so i could only have on amber parking lights and my fog lights. The lights were too low and barely illuminated 10 feet in front of the car (dimly)... maybe if they were VERY bright (do they make projector fog lights?) it might work, but in my grand am, limping home was a miserable experience...
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08-23-2009, 10:17 AM | #14 | |
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As someone on this forum likes to day, just do it. So I ordered the fog lamp kits from MicroImage. Support the forum type of act. Even if OE fog lamps (or after market copies of Toyota parts), are not bright enough to do the job, and I need to add a second set of fog, LED or head light lamps behind the grill to do the job properly, I still need the wiring harness, instructions, and switch for the dash for the fog lamps. I just hope that the dash switch and wiring are thick enough to handle a second set of lights. Last edited by ellenbetty; 08-23-2009 at 04:37 PM. |
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08-23-2009, 04:55 PM | #15 |
Run it throught the factory wiring for the first set ,
when and if you put a secound set in worry about the new wiring then personally i think you will be fine with just the OEM set up . |
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08-23-2009, 10:31 PM | #16 |
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If I under stand the details the OE like fog lamp kit is plug in simple. Only problem is having to remove the bumper to install the fog lamps. I also figure the dash will have to be pulled to install the on/off switch. Not permitted under the landlady's rules. Not possible with a bad neck. When the kits arrive I will have to pay a garage to install the fog lamp kits.
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08-24-2009, 12:00 AM | #17 | |
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As you can just peel the plastic inner guard back to install the lights and run the loom under the radiator and up into the fuse box under bonnet . But no need for my instructions as Garm's kit comes with full easy to follow instructions . Oh and only the cover from the steering colum is removed , not the dash . |
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08-24-2009, 10:17 AM | #18 |
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I do not under stand why you would need to peel off the cover of the steering column. I remember reading about mounting the switch on the steering wheel. The steering wheel is a strange place to mount a fog lamp switch. Strange place to install the wiring for the on-off fog lamp switch. Does the kit use wiring in the column meant for another purpose? The logical place to install the on-off switch is in the blank spot in the dash. It is a shame that the spot where Toyota puts the start button is round. I guess I will have to dig out my Toyota Yaris manual and see if I can learn where Toyota normally mounts the on-off switch for the fog lamps.
Plus I am considering mounting the fog lamps behind the grill on the radiator with plastic self locking loops to avoid peeling back the bumper inner guard. Sounds nasty peeling back the bumper inner guard. But installing the fog lamps on the radiator may not be as easy as it sounds. The horn is in the way. So the fog lamps would have to be mounted lower than I want. So there may be little difference between mounting the fog lamps behind the grill and mounting the fog lamps where Toyota made space for them. Last edited by ellenbetty; 08-24-2009 at 05:29 PM. |
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