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Hershey · 10-31-2010, 04:01 PM

We just filed complaints for the YARIS 2008 sedan and 2010 3 door with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration ( N.H.T.S.A. ) in the Office of Defects Investigation division .

Hershey · 11-01-2010, 08:59 PM

Earlier we had to take the 2008 to a different TOYOTA service center due to the faulty door switches for the front and rear passenger doors that work with the dome light that were sticking not allowing the dome light to come on , the rough idle since new , and headlight adjustment for the drivers side . They removed the switches from a used 2008 or a new 2010 YARIS and installed them in ours since they had none in stock in the parts department . The dome light now comes on . As for the idle they removed the spark plugs to inspect them and showed them to us and were fine . So they reinstalled those and said the rough idle for a YARIS is normal . The car still idles rough when stopped . Then the same person a shop FOREMAN adjusted the driver passenger head light higher and now it's further out ahead of the passenger side headlight pattern of light . I may readjust it myself against a wall . While waiting for this we had a salesman show us a used 2008 YARIS 3 door with 41,000 plus miles so I could see if that had the oil and residue where the oil leaks from the #1 head cylinder gasket . Sure enough there it was ( checked for any spilled oil / leaking oil on/from valve cover and was clean ) . I showed the salesman the oil and oil residue that had gathered on the tip of my fingers with 3 tries and explained to him of our head gasket for our 2008 sedan being replaced under warranty due to the oil leak and that car was in their shop for some other warranty work . Then we went inside with him and told our finding to the Head Assistant of sales and said she'd have it brought into the shop , which they never did . Then when we got our car back we showed pictures of the leak and where the oil leaks from the head cylinder gasket to the FOREMAN that worked on the car and told him of our 2010 and their used 2008 3 door on their lot with the same leak and that he may want to take a look at the 3 door . He had no reply on that and said would need to see our 2010 and check for the leak himself to possibly get it repaired in his shop under warranty . He also stated that we could show him all the pictures we had but wouldn't get enough proof . The service center writer was a bit rude and said he would not be able to give us the paperwork at that time and would mail it to us . All this is being followed by CUSTOMER RELATIONS in California , which has been rather worthless . Therefore , we're not sure if we want to take the 2010 3 door to this TOYOTA service center to get the head cylinder gasker replaced under warranty . Feel for whoever buys that used 2008 3 door Yaris with the oil leak .

bronsin · 11-01-2010, 09:34 PM

Before you panic and check your DOM sticker these "leaks" do not look serious to me at all. If the engine was using a quart of oil every 500 miles and there was a lot of oil on a piece of cardboard placed under the engine then you got a problem. Is your car using a quart of oil every 500 miles?

Hershey · 11-01-2010, 10:14 PM

Your car , your call . See pics . Leak has stopped on our '08 after fix . Nothing more to prove .

bronsin · 11-02-2010, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hershey

Your car , your call . See pics . Leak has stopped on our '08 after fix . Nothing more to prove .

Please answer the question. Does your car use a quart of oil every 500 miles?

yaris2010RS · 11-01-2010, 11:37 PM

LOL, THIS IS REALLY WORRYING! lol, i have checked about 7 yaris's the way i checked mine and no leak...... im wondering if im checking the right area or if its an issolated area with the issue..... or bs.....but i doubt it

Hershey · 11-02-2010, 12:48 AM

No B.S.

. Wouldn't have forwarded it to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and TOYOTA ( Japan ) if not true . Including the findings with our friends 2010 YARIS , the two CERTIFIED 2010 5 door , and other used YARIS . You've seen the worksheet from TOYO service center , what more PROOF do you need ?

. We've made up our minds , no more posts on this matter .

yaris2010RS · 11-02-2010, 12:56 AM

no i do believe u and if its as wide spread as u make it sound everyone should be checking. like i said before i dont even know where to check exactly and i figured after checking 7 yarii plus my own i would have found at least one......

from standing infront of the car, with my left hand reached behind the engine and felt the entire back end of the engine from valve cover to exhaust (make sure u do this check when engine is cold) and i could not find anything...... my hand came out dry and super clean.... i figured i would emerge with atleast dirt on my hand. was this the right location?

Hershey · 11-02-2010, 01:48 AM

Look at the pictures from post # 25 . Stand to the side of the passenger side fender and look down to the back of the engine and you'll notice the large ledge / lip that's part of the lower engine block ( top pic ) . Above the ledge / lip there's an area that goes inward under the engine head ( circled in RED with BLUE arrow ) like that of a cave . In the back of the cave on the top you'll find the BLACK exposed part of the head cylinder gasket about 3 > 4 inches long ( bottom pic circled in RED ) and that will feel smooth to the touch with the tip of your finger(s) ( when clean ). This is where the oil leaks from under the head cylinder gasket of the #1 cylinder . If there's any black oily residue on your fingertip(s) you may have the leak . To get best results you'll need to thoroughly clean all oil / oil residue off of the exposed gasket and the surrounding area . Paper towels and windex work well . Then after driving 150+ miles recheck for fresh oil on the exposed part of gasket with fingertip(s) , if fresh oil , then welcome to the club

. Repeat if needed to verify ( or more and ... ) . That's the best I can explain it . A royal pain in the

to describe in words or show in person . Maybe for some reason CANADIAN cars are excluded . If so , lucky you . We've taken a lot of

on this matter . A good flashlight or plenty of sunshine or both come in handy . Mirror as well . Good Luck .

Flipper_1938 · 11-02-2010, 07:47 AM

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Hershey · 11-02-2010, 11:27 AM

No new car with 3,000 miles should have a oil leak from the head gasket . 2008 did , now it no longer does . Not answering your question for that reason . Like I said . Do as you do , we'll do as we do .

yaris2010RS · 11-02-2010, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hershey

No new car with 3,000 miles should have a oil leak from the head gasket . 2008 did , now it no longer does . Not answering your question for that reason . Like I said . Do as you do , we'll do as we do .

i completly agree with this, no car should ever leak oil. if it does it should be fixed not only for the environment but the car itself. even a small leak is a sign of a big issue starting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flipper_1938

I'd rather live with a couple of drops than have the local dealer tech tear my motor apart.....and really screw something up.

i disagree with this! id much rather get it fixed now under warranty then later on down the road out of my own pocket and possibally with more damage done (running out of oil or gas and coolant mixing)

y live with an issue when it can be fixed and one less thing to worry about.

personally i say thank you to hershey for bringing this to the attention of yarisworld

bronsin · 11-02-2010, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hershey

No new car with 3,000 miles should have a oil leak from the head gasket . 2008 did , now it no longer does . Not answering your question for that reason . Like I said . Do as you do , we'll do as we do .

Sincee you will not answer the question I can only conclude you have something to hide, consciously or unconsciously. This is not a serious problem if it does not lead to excessive oil consumption. You are upsetting people who know no better. Im my opinion you should not be allowed to do that.

Hershey · 11-02-2010, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronsin

Sincee you will not answer the question I can only conclude you have something to hide, consciously or unconsciously. This is not a serious problem if it does not lead to excessive oil consumption. You are upsetting people who know no better. Im my opinion you should not be allowed to do that.

Take a look at the worksheet . That says it all . Don't a give a rats

if it a looses a few ounces or a quart at whatever miles . No NEW car should have an oil leak from the HEAD CYLINDER GASKET . We're not trying to scare people

, only to let them know that it's possible they may have a leak and know what to expect if the issue may come their way .

bronsin · 11-02-2010, 07:11 PM

An oil leak that doesnt change the oil level is not a problem.

Hershey · 11-02-2010, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronsin

An oil leak that doesnt change the oil level is not a problem.

Uh huh . We have nothing to hide or nothing more to say . Take it or leave it .

TXyaris · 01-08-2011, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronsin

An oil leak that doesnt change the oil level is not a problem.

uhhh. ur wrong

SimTronik · 11-02-2010, 07:16 PM

The bad thing on a Forum is you don't know which ppl have some real good expertise and who's messing around with common people. I have a oil change tomorrow morning, guess they check for that anyways...

11-01-2010, 11:37 PM	#6
yaris2010RS View User's Garage Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Angus, Ontario Posts: 1,891	LOL, THIS IS REALLY WORRYING! lol, i have checked about 7 yaris's the way i checked mine and no leak...... im wondering if im checking the right area or if its an issolated area with the issue..... or bs.....but i doubt it __________________ If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it

11-02-2010, 12:56 AM	#8
yaris2010RS View User's Garage Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Angus, Ontario Posts: 1,891	no i do believe u and if its as wide spread as u make it sound everyone should be checking. like i said before i dont even know where to check exactly and i figured after checking 7 yarii plus my own i would have found at least one...... from standing infront of the car, with my left hand reached behind the engine and felt the entire back end of the engine from valve cover to exhaust (make sure u do this check when engine is cold) and i could not find anything...... my hand came out dry and super clean.... i figured i would emerge with atleast dirt on my hand. was this the right location? __________________ If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it

11-02-2010, 01:48 AM	#9
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Look at the pictures from post # 25 . Stand to the side of the passenger side fender and look down to the back of the engine and you'll notice the large ledge / lip that's part of the lower engine block ( top pic ) . Above the ledge / lip there's an area that goes inward under the engine head ( circled in RED with BLUE arrow ) like that of a cave . In the back of the cave on the top you'll find the BLACK exposed part of the head cylinder gasket about 3 > 4 inches long ( bottom pic circled in RED ) and that will feel smooth to the touch with the tip of your finger(s) ( when clean ). This is where the oil leaks from under the head cylinder gasket of the #1 cylinder . If there's any black oily residue on your fingertip(s) you may have the leak . To get best results you'll need to thoroughly clean all oil / oil residue off of the exposed gasket and the surrounding area . Paper towels and windex work well . Then after driving 150+ miles recheck for fresh oil on the exposed part of gasket with fingertip(s) , if fresh oil , then welcome to the club . Repeat if needed to verify ( or more and ... ) . That's the best I can explain it . A royal pain in the to describe in words or show in person . Maybe for some reason CANADIAN cars are excluded . If so , lucky you . We've taken a lot of on this matter . A good flashlight or plenty of sunshine or both come in handy . Mirror as well . Good Luck . Last edited by Hershey; 11-02-2010 at 02:07 AM.

11-02-2010, 07:47 AM	#10
Flipper_1938 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 529	! Last edited by Flipper_1938; 12-17-2010 at 11:02 PM.

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10-31-2010, 04:01 PM	#1
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	We just filed complaints for the YARIS 2008 sedan and 2010 3 door with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration ( N.H.T.S.A. ) in the Office of Defects Investigation division .

11-01-2010, 08:59 PM	#2
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Earlier we had to take the 2008 to a different TOYOTA service center due to the faulty door switches for the front and rear passenger doors that work with the dome light that were sticking not allowing the dome light to come on , the rough idle since new , and headlight adjustment for the drivers side . They removed the switches from a used 2008 or a new 2010 YARIS and installed them in ours since they had none in stock in the parts department . The dome light now comes on . As for the idle they removed the spark plugs to inspect them and showed them to us and were fine . So they reinstalled those and said the rough idle for a YARIS is normal . The car still idles rough when stopped . Then the same person a shop FOREMAN adjusted the driver passenger head light higher and now it's further out ahead of the passenger side headlight pattern of light . I may readjust it myself against a wall . While waiting for this we had a salesman show us a used 2008 YARIS 3 door with 41,000 plus miles so I could see if that had the oil and residue where the oil leaks from the #1 head cylinder gasket . Sure enough there it was ( checked for any spilled oil / leaking oil on/from valve cover and was clean ) . I showed the salesman the oil and oil residue that had gathered on the tip of my fingers with 3 tries and explained to him of our head gasket for our 2008 sedan being replaced under warranty due to the oil leak and that car was in their shop for some other warranty work . Then we went inside with him and told our finding to the Head Assistant of sales and said she'd have it brought into the shop , which they never did . Then when we got our car back we showed pictures of the leak and where the oil leaks from the head cylinder gasket to the FOREMAN that worked on the car and told him of our 2010 and their used 2008 3 door on their lot with the same leak and that he may want to take a look at the 3 door . He had no reply on that and said would need to see our 2010 and check for the leak himself to possibly get it repaired in his shop under warranty . He also stated that we could show him all the pictures we had but wouldn't get enough proof . The service center writer was a bit rude and said he would not be able to give us the paperwork at that time and would mail it to us . All this is being followed by CUSTOMER RELATIONS in California , which has been rather worthless . Therefore , we're not sure if we want to take the 2010 3 door to this TOYOTA service center to get the head cylinder gasker replaced under warranty . Feel for whoever buys that used 2008 3 door Yaris with the oil leak .

11-01-2010, 09:34 PM	#3
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,790	Before you panic and check your DOM sticker these "leaks" do not look serious to me at all. If the engine was using a quart of oil every 500 miles and there was a lot of oil on a piece of cardboard placed under the engine then you got a problem. Is your car using a quart of oil every 500 miles?

11-01-2010, 10:14 PM	#4
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Your car , your call . See pics . Leak has stopped on our '08 after fix . Nothing more to prove .

11-02-2010, 12:48 AM	#7
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	No B.S. . Wouldn't have forwarded it to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and TOYOTA ( Japan ) if not true . Including the findings with our friends 2010 YARIS , the two CERTIFIED 2010 5 door , and other used YARIS . You've seen the worksheet from TOYO service center , what more PROOF do you need ? . We've made up our minds , no more posts on this matter .

11-02-2010, 11:27 AM	#11
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	No new car with 3,000 miles should have a oil leak from the head gasket . 2008 did , now it no longer does . Not answering your question for that reason . Like I said . Do as you do , we'll do as we do .

11-02-2010, 07:11 PM	#15
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,790	An oil leak that doesnt change the oil level is not a problem.

11-02-2010, 07:16 PM	#18
SimTronik Machinist View User's Garage Drives: Yaris sedan 2010 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sts-Anges, Quebec, canada Posts: 198	The bad thing on a Forum is you don't know which ppl have some real good expertise and who's messing around with common people. I have a oil change tomorrow morning, guess they check for that anyways...