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[Yoda]

Originally Posted by H3LlIoN

Bill emailed back and said to expect about a 15hp gain from cam kit alone.

is that whp or just crank?

[H3LlIoN]

no clue, will ask.

[H3LlIoN]

Originally Posted by Yoda

is that whp or just crank?

and he responded "This reading was at the wheels, dyno’s from one to the other very rarely read the same."

[rob323]

Originally Posted by rob323

Any idea where abouts in the rev range the cams are designed to produce power?

This will be important to those that don't have the facility to change their rev limit.

[d1nzfe]

i guess the cams will be sleeping before 5500rpm, so rev cut removal is needed.

[H3LlIoN]

Alright, asked him for a graph showing just cams, and this is what he sent back...dyno'd at wheels.

[cali yaris]

red is with the cams?

This is on an xB? with any other mods?

[rob323]

I assume red is the power and black is the torque. But the graph is pretty meaningless without a stock cam baseline to compare it against. Although at least it is still making power right up to 6000 rpm, so that's a good sign.

[cali yaris]

looking more closely, it does say hp and torque on the red/black lines.

116 whp / 107 torque is what it says, I think?

does that O2 say 10.35?

[H3LlIoN]

You guys are killing me. I'm done until my stuff comes in...I'm tired of all the back and forth.

[rob323]

Yeah, I noticed that too. It's running pig rich, even if not naturally aspirated.

[rob323]

Originally Posted by H3LlIoN

You guys are killing me. I'm done until my stuff comes in...I'm tired of all the back and forth.

Sorry about that H3LlIoN, but if someone wants to sell a product, you shouldn't have to milk them for all the relevant information.
Things like duration, lift, spring requirements, adjustable cam gear requirements, baseline and upgrade graphs, engine management mods, dialling in instructions etc should all be readily available and if offered up front, would save the milllion and one question being asked later.

[Gideon]

What's his email? Just have these guys email him and ask instead of being middleman.

[Yoda]

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[Parmas]

Originally Posted by rob323

Although at least it is still making power right up to 6000 rpm, so that's a good sign.

I want to see a dyno till 7500rpm! My setup is with stock head and since now I make power till 6300rpm for sure. My main interest on these cams is that it can make power within range of 7000rpm - 8000rpm if not they aren't worth the price.

Of course a stock cam baseline versus gude cam will be more reliable to compare

[cali yaris]

You guys are killing me. I'm done until my stuff comes in...I'm tired of all the back and forth.

If you don't want the back and forth, don't post until you have the product in hand with some results, or be prepared for a lot of questions -- which is exactly what happened.

Mostly, I think people are excited that SOMEONE finally went for this, period.

[H3LlIoN]

I know, I know. I'm thinking I'm gonna swap factory airbox back in for the baseline run. If the heads come with cams already installed, then I'm gonna throw it on there and run it again. If not, I'll run the cams separately in my factory heads w/ factory airbox for you guys.

[cali yaris]