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Old 12-23-2006, 11:32 AM   #19
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Once you are moving there really is no reason to go back into first.
what about when you're racing?
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:16 PM   #20
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what about when you're racing?
Then there really is no reason for it. Most of the time you try and shift as seldom as possible.
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:19 PM   #21
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Then there really is no reason for it. Most of the time you try and shift as seldom as possible.
you've clearly never autocrossed.
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:53 PM   #22
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The 1.3lt engine model has a lot of torque and it isi easy to start on 2nd gear.
I don't know why, but I had a 1.3L Ford and it also had significantly more torque in the low end than the 1.5 Yaris. I drove the Ford uphill in Swiss Alps loaded with 5 adults on very steep and curvy roads, it pulled so easily.

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Old 12-23-2006, 01:59 PM   #23
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you've clearly never autocrossed.
Thats exactly what I am talking about. If its a tight short course you try and stay in 2rd, if its a bit more open you might have to shift into 3rd. Thats why some 6 spd cars are at a disadvantage on certain courses.

You sure as hell don't want to drop back into 1st gear in an auto-x.
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Old 12-23-2006, 07:20 PM   #24
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to me it sounds like the cables of the shifter need to be lubed, toyotas use 2 cables to shift gears, when those become dry they can make some weird noises, just take it in to the dealer if you can and show them
What causes the shift cable to become dry? And is if difficult to lubricate it yourself?
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Old 12-23-2006, 07:34 PM   #25
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Thats exactly what I am talking about. If its a tight short course you try and stay in 2rd, if its a bit more open you might have to shift into 3rd. Thats why some 6 spd cars are at a disadvantage on certain courses.

You sure as hell don't want to drop back into 1st gear in an auto-x.
you've never been in a tight chicago box then.
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Old 12-23-2006, 08:48 PM   #26
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I have never dropped back into 1st with my Neon. Perhaps the lack of trq. in the yaris will make it a necessity. I guess I will see once the season starts up.
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Old 12-23-2006, 08:50 PM   #27
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guess so :)
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:52 AM   #28
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I don't know why, but I had a 1.3L Ford and it also had significantly more torque in the low end than the 1.5 Yaris. I drove the Ford uphill in Swiss Alps loaded with 5 adults on very steep and curvy roads, it pulled so easily.

It has to do with the rpms that the torque comes out.In the 1.3lt Yaris, it has more torque at about 2500-4500 rpms.
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