Toyota Yaris Crash

[Kaotic Lazagna]

All I'm going to post:

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...eployment.html


But I'm glad that he walked away without serious injuries.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Another reading on airbags:

http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/a...s03/page3.html

[frownonfun]

seems like some people are expecting this to happen when the airbag comes out... they really aren't all that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnyhkBU1yaw

[bobselectric]

First off, I'm glad your husband is alive, and in the grand scheme of things, was fortunate in that he wasn't more seriously injured- but I think you are flaming on Toyota, and in particular, the Yaris a bit too much. First off, this isn't 1972. Cars today are made with more lightweight materials than in previous years. Even in a minor collision, the damage sometimes looks horrific. Hey, I hit a deer at 30 mph in my 07 hatch, causing 6000 in damage and the deer walked away! Second, the cars today are engineered better than in previous years. Looking at the pics in your powerpoint, the car did what it was supposed to do- the passenger compartment was relatively undamaged, compared to the front end. The force of the collision was deflected away from the cockpit, the crumple zones crumpled, and the car gave its life to protect your husband. You didn't mention how fast he was going, how fast the other driver was going, or whether he or the other driver was turning at the time. These all matter. Third, are you a motion engineer, a collision specialist, an electrical engineer, or a physicist? Do you know more about air bag development, sensors, or deployment than design engineers? Do you honestly think, that if you were driving a comparable car made by a different manufacturer, (a Fiesta, an Accent, an Aveo, a Cube, a Fit, a Versa, etc.) that there would have been less damage, or the airbags might have deployed, and what would you base that conclusion on?
Ok, I own a Yaris- it's fun to drive, sporty, economical- a nice little car. Do i have any illusions about what would happen in a collision? No- I know, that in all likelihood, the car would be totalled. Do I have faith in the engineers and designers, that they would create this car to keep me as safe as possible? Yes, this is not a Yugo your husband was driving. If you don't feel safe in the car, get a bigger one- not that you should feel much safer because of the size. The way you come across, you should look for a '74 Caddy Eldorado (aircraft carrier)- you might not be able to afford the gas, but you should feel "safe".

BTW, was your husband wearing a seatbelt? If so, that might account for the broken ribs and the fracture of the spine

[DebbyM46227]

Originally Posted by mckulley1

If you purchase a vehicle with safety devices, then those safety devices should work properly.

If this is your attitudes then I hope each of you get into an accident and your air bags do not deploy. Then you can tell me how you feel about a safety device that does not properly operate!

I did not realize it was such a privilege to drive a Yaris that I should be "just happy" to be alive. I figured it also involved getting what you pay for!!!

Geez.....aren't YOU nice!!! Have you ever stopped to think if the airbags deployed he might have been killed by them? I love my Yaris and you aren't changing my mind about it!!!

[BailOut]

From the description of the accident and the injuries that were sustained it sounds like more of a lateral collision than a purely frontal one. This would be a great explanation for why the airbags didn't deploy. The injuries mentioned are also not the kind that a frontal airbag deployment would have done anything to help.

And I think Toyota called it right when they said the bumper had been removed and the front sawed at. The cut is much straighter than what one would expect from anything involving a collision that didn't involve manufacturing machinery.

I sympathize with the victim and am glad he's alright, and fully understand that any collision is not a fun event. Yet I feel you are grasping at straws, though to what end I cannot tell.

[Bluevitz-rs]

Well, for one, that was not a front end (head on type) collision from the pictures. Seeing how both frame rails are bent to the passenger's side and the bumper beam is ripped off. The hood isn't crushed in, and the radiator isn't folded around the engine.

An airbag sensor is nothing more than a DECELERATION sensor (or acceleration in a negative direction for those that know VECTORS). So getting hit from the side won't deploy the airbags, wether you traveling in a forward direction or not.

You could be sitting motionless at a stoplight and get hit from the front head on and you airbags will deploy if there is sufficient negative acceleration.

I'll bet you didn't know there's also pre-tentioners in the seat belts that pull some slack out of the belt as the airbags deploy.

It's all part of the SRS (Supplementary Restraint System).

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by mckulley1

If you purchase a vehicle with safety devices, then those safety devices should work properly.

If this is your attitudes then I hope each of you get into an accident and your air bags do not deploy. Then you can tell me how you feel about a safety device that does not properly operate!

I did not realize it was such a privilege to drive a Yaris that I should be "just happy" to be alive. I figured it also involved getting what you pay for!!!

Your car's safety systems worked as they were designed to. Airbags, seat belts and other safety devices don't prevent all injuries from occurring, they minimize them. Other factor come into play and your husband's injuries could have resulted from any number of reasons. Maybe next time do a little more research on the topic before you post slanderous accusations.

There are numerous threads on here concerning Yaris that have been in bad accidents, and in no cases were the safety features of the car found to malfunction. I don't know what your agenda is but if you think you're going to convince anyone on here that there is a serious fault with the safety system in our cars, you are wasting your time.

[Vioz]

Theres something wrong with my air bags, my sensor has been on for weeks, i haven't had it checked out yet but i should just in case they do not deploy when needed to if anything happens. I haven't done anything in that area at all either, just one day driving on the highway I randomly saw the light just go on, no bad weather, no pothole I hit or nothing at all it just randomly went on.

[krusty]

Well I'm glad to see that any injuries that came from this accident are not life threatening and that the Yaris held up well in the accident. I was going to say more on this subject but it would seem that everything I was going to say has been covered already so no need to repeat anything. lol

[why?]

Originally Posted by mckulley1

If you own a Toyota, please watch this video.

Toyota Yaris Crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D80aC8g9mI

you are a coward, rather clueless, and in need of some serious education.

The first thing is airbags have never been proven to do anything except injur people.

I would not be surprised if you did tamper with the airbags and your car.

[Bluevitz-rs]

Originally Posted by Vioz

Theres something wrong with my air bags, my sensor has been on for weeks, i haven't had it checked out yet but i should just in case they do not deploy when needed to if anything happens. I haven't done anything in that area at all either, just one day driving on the highway I randomly saw the light just go on, no bad weather, no pothole I hit or nothing at all it just randomly went on.

Well, in your case the entire SRS system won't be functioning. It could be any number of things. Including the passenger occupancy detector.

[custom Lftback]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Your car's safety systems worked as they were designed to. Airbags, seat belts and other safety devices don't prevent all injuries from occurring, they minimize them. Other factor come into play and your husband's injuries could have resulted from any number of reasons. Maybe next time do a little more research on the topic before you post slanderous accusations.

There are numerous threads on here concerning Yaris that have been in bad accidents, and in no cases were the safety features of the car found to malfunction. I don't know what your agenda is but if you think you're going to convince anyone on here that there is a serious fault with the safety system in our cars, you are wasting your time.

+1 'nuff said

[Bluevitz-rs]

Originally Posted by why?

you are a coward, rather clueless, and in need of some serious education.

The first thing is airbags have never been proven to do anything except injur people.

I would not be surprised if you did tamper with the airbags and your car.

Well, the time I did a face plant into one seems to completely disprove your theory. Because I walked away from that accident without a scratch and NO whiplash. <-- Something I'm most certain I would've had if not for the airbag.

[cali yaris]

If this is your attitudes then I hope each of you get into an accident and your air bags do not deploy.

I feel your love!

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by mckulley1

If you own a Toyota, please watch this video.

Toyota Yaris Crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D80aC8g9mI

Ok,ok, ok....so we are not supposed to assume anything based purely on post counts, but hey! I am going to right now! You are obviously not an enlightened individual on your vehicle nor the technology involved. So lemme ask something...Do you know how to use your stove or microwave oven? Do you know how to use your lawnmower or clean it? Do you know how to use a hair straightener or curling iron? I am willing to bet that you "know" how to use these devices. owning a car, truck, motorcycle, rv, etc is no different. You are essentially in a moving bullet and therefore you should know what damage that bullet can dish out as well as what it can take. Air bags deploy depending upon many variables...it appears like someone else mentioned that this was not a frontal nor rear collision therefore it makes sense that it didn't deploy.

The car did what it is designed to do...yes, it was a traumatic experience I am sure, but to get irritated that someone posted up something on a forum when you should expect it is ridiculous. Then to turn around and wish that people get into accidents? I tell you what....that is like me saying that I lost a loved one in combat...then that means it is OK for me to wish that someone infiltrates your home and kills every one of your family if you disagree with war.

On another hand are you attempt to drum up backing to sue Toyota? Are you looking to put people in your corner for a class action lawsuit like those that did with the floormat deal? Are you one of those morons that has other mats on your factory mats and doesn't expect that maybe that is not a good idea??? Universally stupid.

[tomato]

@OP, I'm sorry about your accident but I'm afraid I have to agree with the posters who think the car did its job in protecting the driver. Just look at the cabin, it has retained its shape.

We are small car enthusiasts on here and are fully aware of what might happen in a collision with a much heavier vehicle however, we also don't believe the Yaris is defective.

We also happen to like the Yaris quite a bit for what it does well and many of us on here are very proud of the little car (yes, it's an economy car, and yes, it does have shortcomings, but we still very much enjoy it).

Sorry about your pain and suffering, but please don't take it down on us (wishing for all of us to get into an accident is just not very nice and will not make anyone feel better, not even your husband).

[tomato]

Guys, take it easy in here.