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Old 01-08-2007, 11:56 AM   #1
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Found Something... Please advise!

I found this and i wasn't sure if it was worth the $300 investment...Let me know what you guys think...

http://www.jscspeed.com/index.html?/.../pe_camcon.htm

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Old 01-08-2007, 12:49 PM   #2
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Lots of mixed reviews on the 1nz-fe...have a look on scionlife, a lot of the guys on theer haven't been too impressed with i. I understand it's more effecetive with vvtli engines
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:17 PM   #3
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I found this and i wasn't sure if it was worth the $300 investment...Let me know what you guys think...

http://www.jscspeed.com/index.html?/.../pe_camcon.htm

nah i dont trust stuff like that
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:01 PM   #4
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Don't waist you $$$ unless you autocross with your car.
yes they works and give you more control over the powercurve of the car but actual power gains are small and it's notsomething that would be very useful for everyday driving and fuel economy.
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:12 AM   #5
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Don't waist you $$$ unless you autocross with your car.
yes they works and give you more control over the powercurve of the car but actual power gains are small and it's notsomething that would be very useful for everyday driving and fuel economy.
I agree. You wont enjoy the ride comfort after.
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Old 01-09-2007, 07:31 AM   #6
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better to hear from someone who installed it on their yaris.. 'was planning to get one of this..

how about greddy's e-manage ultimate?
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:24 PM   #7
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i'd say teh e-manage would be more useful.

apparantly the ECU just ovverised the camcon.
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Old 01-10-2007, 04:10 PM   #8
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There is a thread on the scion forums where a guys spends several thousand dollars to find 27hp. That was one of the parts he tried. It did not offer any improvements at all.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:07 PM   #9
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PRICE SEEMS PRETTY NICE...
BUT WILL IT MAKE A 1ZZ-FE hit 160hp with the CAI?

IF IT DOES I'LL BUY IT RIGHT AWAY... HOW MUCH IS THE E-MANAGE ANYWAY?
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:34 PM   #10
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Emanage costs about 600 euros...I think!
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:26 PM   #11
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I agree. You wont enjoy the ride comfort after.
That unit has absolutely NOTHING to do with ride comfort.

If you want a fast car, sell your Yaris and buy one!
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:13 PM   #12
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I guess it does mess comfort sometimes .. considering the extra Gs pulling you. but thats only when you floor it right?
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:42 PM   #13
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All that thing does is changes the Timing of your car... at BEST you might get 2HP... but besides power it improves the Torque/HP curve... It will make for smoother power band, that's about it... I still don't know enough about timing to guess what it would do to the Yaris... Would I have to put in Premium gas? That kind of stuff...

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Old 01-12-2007, 02:31 AM   #14
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The only thing the CAMCON can do on a Toyota engine is advance or retard the timing of a VVT-i or VVTL-i engine, on the 1NZ-FE, you aren't going to see any benefits whatsoever to just indiscriminately applying one of these units... now, if you have some sort of forced induction or other highly modified setup, and you need to be able to change your timing, this is the box for you. As for the e-Manage, I've heard that most modern ECU's will fight the e-manage tooth and nail and that the only time they are really effective is at WOT, the worst offenders of this are Toyota and Nissan's "smart" or "learning" ECUs.... as for the E-manage ultimate, I've heard it's not even worth the money, headaches all around when trying to use it with a modern ECU. What would be ideal is a complete replacement ECU, like Apex'i's PowerFC, or a way to tune the factory ECU, I'd say we may have to wait a while yet to see any applications of this sort start to appear.
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yea, tuning the factory ECU seems to be the way to go... just need a way to do it.

until then, it looks like standalone.
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:53 PM   #16
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what exactly is the hp and torque goal by trying putting a stand alone setup. you can't just change the brain and expect great things to come from it. with this motor you might be lucky to get few horse out of it. so thats what 1300 bucks to get few horse. thats kinda point less i think.
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:57 PM   #17
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what exactly is the hp and torque goal by trying putting a stand alone setup. you can't just change the brain and expect great things to come from it. with this motor you might be lucky to get few horse out of it. so thats what 1300 bucks to get few horse. thats kinda point less i think.
Yes, but for those that plan to go SC or turbo wit a bit more agressive boost...well, something is needed to fine tune settings, the factory ECU alone with stock programming just isn't going to cut it. And those that will go with all motor setups may want to change parts of the program to optimize timings and air/fuel for say... different compressions, different cams, etc. You're not likely to see gains from JUST an ECU on these cars, the point is, to fine tune and optimize for your other modifications
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:08 AM   #18
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i have another toy so i know what its for and all. but what kinda numbers are can be achieved for this motor? realistically
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