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Old 09-15-2014, 10:34 PM   #1
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Desktop PC nuts - Need advice

So I picked up the desktop PC that I am currently running a few years back from my best friend. I got it for a steal at 400 bucks so I really can't complain however I am at a crossroads and would like to see about upgrading my Mobo, CPU, RAM, and video card.....Yes, I know...most of the guts.

Anyway, I have kind of fallen off the spec wagon as I used to be a PC guru. I went and did a few quick comparisons to other new AMD products (been an AMD fan for years) and was a bit perplexed to see for example a side by side of my CPU (Phenom II X6 1090T) vs the latest offerings from AMD. Even though my CPU is 4.5 years old it still ranks higher . I mean, I know that it is a nasty CPU, but still! Anyway here is a report that I pulled to give a baseline of what I have cooking. I have been narrowing down the Video card upgrade to the SAPPHIRE DUAL-X 100365L Radeon R9 270 2GB. With this in mind that is roughly 170 bucks. I would like to stay in a total of only another 600 at most on the Mobo, CPU, and RAM. I would really like the Mobo to have at least 6 SATA III ports and the more USB 3.0 of course the better. I do use the machine for games like Diablo III, other 3rd person RPG and Shooters, Music content creation, mkv conversion, large file xfers internally, and across the LAN, graphic editting, etc. Thanks for any feedback!

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Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 6.1.7601

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Computer:
Computer Type ACPI x64-based PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1
Internet Explorer 9.11.9600.17041
DirectX DirectX 11.0
Computer Name
User Name
Logon Domain
Date / Time 2014-09-15 / 22:13

Motherboard:
CPU Type HexaCore , 3400 MHz (16 x 213), AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor
Motherboard Name MSI DKA790GX (Platinum) (MS-7550) (2 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1, 2 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Video, Gigabit LAN)
Motherboard Chipset AMD 790GX, AMD K10
System Memory 8192 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DIMM1: Kingston 2G-UDIMM 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM2: Kingston 2G-UDIMM 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM3: Kingston 2G-UDIMM 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM4: Kingston 2G-UDIMM 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
BIOS Type AMI (05/05/10)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)

Display:
Video Adapter ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (1024 MB)
Video Adapter ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (1024 MB)
3D Accelerator ATI Radeon HD 4890 (RV790)
Monitor Dell SE178WFP [17" LCD] (PK25685N1AFL)
Monitor PnP-Monitor (Standard) [NoDB] (HVNB903543)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter ATI Radeon HDMI @ ATI RV770/790 - High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Adapter Realtek ALC888/1200 @ ATI SB750 - High Definition Audio Controller

Storage:
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Disk Drive Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device
Disk Drive Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device
Disk Drive Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device
Disk Drive Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device
Disk Drive Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device (29 GB, USB)
Disk Drive ST3750528AS ATA Device (750 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II)
Disk Drive WDC WD10EAVS-32D7B1 ATA Device (931 GB, IDE)
Optical Drive PLEXTOR DVDR PX-880SA ATA Device
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 197.3 GB (26.0 GB free)
F: (NTFS) 99 MB (61 MB free)
G: (NTFS) 931.4 GB (355.3 GB free)
H: (NTFS) 302.2 GB (235.8 GB free)
O: (NTFS) 199.1 GB (64.3 GB free)
Total Size 1630.1 GB (681.6 GB free)

Input:
Keyboard HID Keyboard Device
Keyboard Microsoft USB Dual Receiver Wireless Keyboard (Mouse and Keyboard Center)
Mouse Microsoft USB Dual Receiver Wireless Mouse (Mouse and Keyboard Center)

Network:
Primary IP Address 10.10.10.80
Primary MAC Address 00-24-21-10-55-F6
Network Adapter Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (10.10.10.80)

Peripherals:
Printer CutePDF Writer
Printer EPSON WorkForce 645 Series - Network FAX
Printer Fax
Printer Send To OneNote 2010
Printer WorkForce 645(Network)
FireWire Controller JMicron JMB380 PCI-E 1394a OHCI FireWire Controller and Memory Card Host Controller
USB1 Controller ATI SB750 - OHCI USB Controller
USB1 Controller ATI SB750 - OHCI USB Controller
USB1 Controller ATI SB750 - OHCI USB Controller
USB1 Controller ATI SB750 - OHCI USB Controller
USB1 Controller ATI SB750 - OHCI USB Controller
USB1 Controller VIA USB eXtensible Host Controller [1106-3432] [NoDB]
USB2 Controller ATI SB750 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
USB2 Controller ATI SB750 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
USB Device Microsoft Hardware USB Keyboard
USB Device Microsoft Hardware USB Mouse
USB Device Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard Detection Driver (USB)
USB Device USB Input Device
USB Device USB Input Device
USB Device USB Mass Storage Device

DMI:
DMI BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
DMI BIOS Version V1.14
DMI System Manufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
DMI System Product MS-7550
DMI System Version 1.0
DMI System Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
DMI Motherboard Manufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
DMI Motherboard Product DKA790GX Platinum (MS-7550)
DMI Motherboard Version 1.0
DMI Motherboard Serial Number To be filled by O.E.M.
DMI Chassis Manufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
DMI Chassis Version 1.0
DMI Chassis Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
DMI Chassis Asset Tag To Be Filled By O.E.M.
DMI Chassis Type Desktop Case
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:39 AM   #2
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I don't know what to say. You already have an hexaCore. Why not just keep it?
My quad core (intel core2quad q9400) still performs better a 2nd gen core i5 dual core.
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:44 AM   #3
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I don't know what to say. You already have an hexaCore. Why not just keep it?
My quad core (intel core2quad q9400) still performs better a 2nd gen core i5 dual core.
yeah I am steadily finding out that fact. kind of sucks too. I would really like to fibd a board that I can possibly use my cpu with that accepts at leadt 16gb of ram for the heavy encoding I do from time to time. any suggestions there?
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:53 AM   #4
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A quick perusal of newegg's AM3/AM3+ motherboards with 16+ GB RAM and 6 SATA ports turns up about a dozen choices. I've been out of the PC specs market for a few years myself, so I can't really make any recommendations beyond that.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:02 AM   #5
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yeah I am steadily finding out that fact. kind of sucks too. I would really like to fibd a board that I can possibly use my cpu with that accepts at leadt 16gb of ram for the heavy encoding I do from time to time. any suggestions there?

What is your encoder? I don't think you need that much ram for encoding.
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Old 09-16-2014, 11:39 AM   #6
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I use different ones really. The bulk of the aoftware I use is through NCH Windows Movie Maker, a couple other dedicated suites. One thing that I noticed over the last several montha is that my machine really bogs down when I am uaing winrar to decompress large mkv files which it never used to. I have various software I use to keep the system clean and also capture malware/adware/spyware. I guess what I am trying to figure out is whether or not AMD tech has really not moved much forward in 5 years. I suppose that it doesn't help that I have top of the line components from that time period. That would logically require me to do the same again now to really see a performance difference. I had run 2 different SSDs as my boot/program drive however they both shit the bed. I need to figure out the fastest platter drive that I can install to help too.
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I use different ones really. The bulk of the aoftware I use is through NCH Windows Movie Maker, a couple other dedicated suites. One thing that I noticed over the last several montha is that my machine really bogs down when I am uaing winrar to decompress large mkv files which it never used to. I have various software I use to keep the system clean and also capture malware/adware/spyware. I guess what I am trying to figure out is whether or not AMD tech has really not moved much forward in 5 years. I suppose that it doesn't help that I have top of the line components from that time period. That would logically require me to do the same again now to really see a performance difference. I had run 2 different SSDs as my boot/program drive however they both shit the bed. I need to figure out the fastest platter drive that I can install to help too.
Honestly chipsets top power have not really moved much in the past 5 years except at the extreme top end. Everyone has been focusing on shrinking them and running them on less power.

As for memory, the next new memory is finally going to be coming out with mobo's to support it in a few months.

There is only one fast platter, and it really isn't fast compared to a ssd. Velociraptor. SSD have sort of come down in price, and if you get on newegg's mailing list they are doing sales all the time like they are going out of business.

Graphics cards have advanced a lot, but the new ones are insanely expensive.
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The 10k drives are only fast in access times. Fastest sequential read/writes are drives with more dense platters, still nowhere near ssd speed. The ssd will also destroy any mechanical drives due to its random read/write speed.

fnk, what's wrong with the ssd you have used? Windows 7 enables trim and shouldn't bog down as you use it...
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One of them had a controller that failed and the replacement eventually had a high corruption rate. plus my sandisk cache drive would shit the bed every couple moths causing the whole system to fail to boot.

I just picked up a kingston ssdnow 300v from staples with their 110% price match for 108 and installed it for now. I still need to figure out a mobo, ram, and quite possibly new video cards. I am kicking around the idea of currency mining too now. I hated win8, but can deal with 8.1 much better. I would just stick with win7, but can't ignore the huge jump in data xfer rates in 8. On my machine they are doubled and that is with only sata II on the mobo. I can't wait to pick up sata III.
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