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Old 03-22-2017, 12:14 PM   #1
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Toyota to Debut 2018 Yaris At New York; No Mention of Yaris GRMN

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Toyota is set to debut the 2018 Yaris at the 2017 New York International Auto Show. Some changes—new front fascia, audio upgrades—but no mention of getting the Yaris GRMN with the 1.8-liter supercharged engine. Shocking. [/sarcasm]

http://www.subcompactculture.com/201...-new-york.html
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:39 PM   #2
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Hows about a 1 liter turbocharged engine?

Or better yet, a 1 liter non turbo?

Call it the Global Warming Special Edition.
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:42 PM   #3
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As someone who likes the 2015-2017 design, overall, I find the 2018 refresh look nice also (at least in SE form). It's interesting to see all the subtle (and not so subtle) tweaks the Yaris has undergone since 2007. Shame that it will be crucified by the critics here for the same old things - the venerable 1.5 106-hp engine (even if it is good), the venerable automatic 4-spd transmission (even if it is good), etc. I wonder if this refresh here will be for 2018-2020, like the 2015 was through 2017. Probably.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:15 AM   #4
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I'd be surprised if they continue using the same drive trains by this point. Maybe the same engine but I have a feeling they will stick the CVT in it like they do the corolla but maybe they'll give it a 6 speed manual since that garbage IA has one.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:32 AM   #5
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Just when I thought the nose and grille-work couldn't get any more grotesque. Oh well, it's still a car I love. I'd be perfectly happy with the same 1.5L motor and 4 speed automatic. Sure hope it doesn't come with that terrible CVT.
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:12 AM   #6
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CVTs and seven speed auto transmissions have dismal reliability records!
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:10 AM   #7
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I saw somewhere that there's a brand new 1.5L engine. With 110hp and 110ftlb. Engine cover labeled VVT-ie
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:53 PM   #8
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I saw somewhere that there's a brand new 1.5L engine. With 110hp and 110ftlb. Engine cover labeled VVT-ie
That's the Vitz hybrid engine (1NZ-FXE) as sold in Japan (maybe Europe?).

http://toyota.jp/vitz/?padid=ag341_v...rom_tjp_top_mv
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:51 PM   #9
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That's the Vitz hybrid engine (1NZ-FXE) as sold in Japan (maybe Europe?).

http://toyota.jp/vitz/?padid=ag341_v...rom_tjp_top_mv
No it isn't ...http://newsroom.toyota.eu/new-15-l-p...-for-the-yaris
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Old 03-23-2017, 07:12 PM   #10
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I know subcompact cars for most manufacturers are not money makers but the 1nz has been going on for just under 20 years, time to put something better in. Or at the very least slap a new head on it or something. Most engine now are either direct injected or have lift etc, time to follow suit.

A 6spd trans would be nice as well and shouldn't cost yota much to throw in.

The 1nz is a Damn good engine but there's no reason it can't be improved. Unless the subcompacts are not a concern for Yota and they just make them to tap into future buyers who buy Camrys and hifglanders when they're older
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:44 PM   #11
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You can see the slightly different alloy wheel design for the 2018 US SE-trim on the official US Toyota website preview page for the 2018 Yaris.

Link below.

http://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/yaris

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Or at the very least slap a new head on it or something. Most engine now are either direct injected or have lift etc, time to follow suit.

toyota did put a new head in the 1nz. It's sold in japan since around 2003 and the time of the refresh of the vitz RS in '08.



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Old 03-27-2017, 11:47 AM   #13
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I really want the gazoo. It is the only car I'd rather daily drive than my se.

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Old 04-06-2017, 09:42 PM   #14
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http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

According to Car & Driver:

"As we expected, the Europe-market Yaris GRMN with its 207 horsepower was a cruel tease for Americans".

Also in the article, it indicated that only the 2-door L will be available in 5-speed manual as of 2018, with everything else being fitted with the tried-and-true 4-speed automatic only.

"Our 2018 Yaris soldiers on with the 1.5-liter four-cylinder, which makes a wimpy 106 horsepower at 6000 rpm and 103 lb-ft of torque at 4200 rpm. It’s connected to a five-speed manual transmission in the two-door L and a four-speed automatic transmission—yes, a four-speed—on every other trim."
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:48 PM   #15
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"Our 2018 Yaris soldiers on with the 1.5-liter four-cylinder, which makes a wimpy 106 horsepower at 6000 rpm and 103 lb-ft of torque at 4200 rpm. It’s connected to a five-speed manual transmission in the two-door L and a four-speed automatic transmission—yes, a four-speed—on every other trim."


I say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". That tried and true combo is one of the main reasons I bought my Yaris.
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:52 PM   #16
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Nice shot of the rear design of the 2018 model from another site:

Kind of reminds me of a VW for some reason, with those taillights.

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Old 04-06-2017, 09:57 PM   #17
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I say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". That tried and true combo is one of the main reasons I bought my Yaris.
True, but I can see why the press has a problem with it. They last forever, and everything there is to like about the Yaris was already there last year, and the year before, and the year before... so why should anyone buy a new one? There aren't any hot new "gotta-have-it" features. "Good enough" doesn't exactly make them fly off the showroom floors.
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Old 04-06-2017, 10:23 PM   #18
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True, but I can see why the press has a problem with it. They last forever, and everything there is to like about the Yaris was already there last year, and the year before, and the year before... so why should anyone buy a new one? There aren't any hot new "gotta-have-it" features. "Good enough" doesn't exactly make them fly off the showroom floors.


A lower price tag would.
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