Manual transmission problem - Toyota Yaris Forums

gonzo452001 · 06-30-2011, 11:15 PM

Sometimes when stopped with the clutch pushed in if you go thu the gears the trans feels like it gets tight won't go into 1st gear until you let the clutch out and push it back in then a little bit later it feels fine.This morning I drove to work 35miles away was going thu the parking lot in second gear stopped and tried to put in in first gear wouldn't go in until i let the clutch out and pushed back in worked fine on the way home have 100,003 mile on car trans oil changed at 75,000miles

RedRide · 06-30-2011, 11:27 PM

That is completely normal for most every manual trans.
You have to momentarily let the clutch out (like you described) to get the shafts spinning to enable the syncros to slip on to and engauge on the proper shaft.

In other words shafts usually have to be spinnning for syncros to function properely.
If gear teeth are not lined up via syncros, etc. you can't shift into that gear.

Somtimes when stopped, you can go through the gears without using the clutch and other times, you cant.
Like I said, it's normal.

ilikerice · 07-01-2011, 06:54 AM

^+1^

Also notice if you ever have trouble getting it in reverse, put it in 4th and then try reverse again. will go in nice and smooth..

gonzo452001 · 07-01-2011, 10:23 AM

Thanks guys i was worried want to drive my yaris to at least 200,000 miles

str8Yaris · 07-01-2011, 10:39 AM

Take care of tranny man..... I already been through one......if you drive lot or you drive hard your car you might want to change your gear oil every 6 mos.... extend the life of it as much as possible ......... but if your problem worsens it might be a syncros wearing out or damaged ... I had that prob on my old tranny.......when it grinds to shift into gear worry.... lol

ilikerice · 07-01-2011, 01:32 PM

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when it grinds to shift into gear worry.... lol

+1

RedRide · 07-01-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikerice

^+1^

Also notice if you ever have trouble getting it in reverse, put it in 4th and then try reverse again. will go in nice and smooth..

What I do (if it wont go into R) is just let the clutch out for a second in neutral then, it will slide into reverse every time.

Kiteless · 07-01-2011, 03:14 PM

Just wanna confirm that this is normal, I had totally forgotten about it though because when I war learning how to drive a manual I was told to get into the habit of only putting it in 1st gear at a dead stop or going veeeeeery slow.

- Jason

str8Yaris · 07-01-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiteless

Just wanna confirm that this is normal, I had totally forgotten about it though because when I war learning how to drive a manual I was told to get into the habit of only putting it in 1st gear at a dead stop or going veeeeeery slow.

- Jason

Yea that good... that's what I do... or neutral ....

thepartsmancometh · 07-03-2011, 08:27 PM

try driving a wrx! first is dead stop only unless you double clutch it. ahhhh...the idiosyncrasies of subaru 5 speeds!

swidd · 07-03-2011, 11:51 PM

To get slightly smoother gear handling try just oiling and lubing the gear linkage on top of the gear box... WD-40 and some lube.

rningonfumes · 07-04-2011, 12:34 AM

What kind of driving requires a gear oil change every six months? It seems like overkill.

ecc_33 · 07-04-2011, 08:09 PM

one that doesn't use a clutch to shift

str8Yaris · 07-04-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rningonfumes

What kind of driving requires a gear oil change every six months? It seems like overkill.

Not if u want your tranny to last u a long time.... if u drive a lot or drive it hard or both its good to change it.... I drive a lot & I take it to the track occasionally .... I'm going to start doing it...its good to have fresh oil in there......

rningonfumes · 07-04-2011, 10:12 PM

Okay, I can understand a track car and hard shifting but not the "drive a lot". There's a reason why they make it a semi-pain to change the gear oil.

thebarber · 07-04-2011, 10:49 PM

shouldnt the manual transmission fluid be changed every 40000miles?

RedRide · 07-05-2011, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiteless

Just wanna confirm that this is normal, I had totally forgotten about it though because when I war learning how to drive a manual I was told to get into the habit of only putting it in 1st gear at a dead stop or going veeeeeery slow.

- Jason

Correct, this is to aviod putting a stain on the syncros.
Never try to force it into any gear.

06-30-2011, 11:15 PM	#1
gonzo452001 Drives: 3-door liftback blazing blue Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: French Lick,IN Posts: 185	Manual transmission problem Sometimes when stopped with the clutch pushed in if you go thu the gears the trans feels like it gets tight won't go into 1st gear until you let the clutch out and push it back in then a little bit later it feels fine.This morning I drove to work 35miles away was going thu the parking lot in second gear stopped and tried to put in in first gear wouldn't go in until i let the clutch out and pushed back in worked fine on the way home have 100,003 mile on car trans oil changed at 75,000miles __________________ 07 yaris LB 5-speed blazing Blue 07 yaris LB Auto Bayou Blue rostra cruise control oem style foglights 96tacoma 4x4 xcab I4auto Weathertech vent visors Scan GaugeII

06-30-2011, 11:27 PM	#2
RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,501	That is completely normal for most every manual trans. You have to momentarily let the clutch out (like you described) to get the shafts spinning to enable the syncros to slip on to and engauge on the proper shaft. In other words shafts usually have to be spinnning for syncros to function properely. If gear teeth are not lined up via syncros, etc. you can't shift into that gear. Somtimes when stopped, you can go through the gears without using the clutch and other times, you cant. Like I said, it's normal. Last edited by RedRide; 06-30-2011 at 11:45 PM.

07-01-2011, 10:23 AM	#4
gonzo452001 Drives: 3-door liftback blazing blue Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: French Lick,IN Posts: 185	Thanks guys i was worried want to drive my yaris to at least 200,000 miles __________________ 07 yaris LB 5-speed blazing Blue 07 yaris LB Auto Bayou Blue rostra cruise control oem style foglights 96tacoma 4x4 xcab I4auto Weathertech vent visors Scan GaugeII

07-01-2011, 10:39 AM	#5
str8Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan Supercharged Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: SG, So Cal Posts: 248	Take care of tranny man..... I already been through one......if you drive lot or you drive hard your car you might want to change your gear oil every 6 mos.... extend the life of it as much as possible ......... but if your problem worsens it might be a syncros wearing out or damaged ... I had that prob on my old tranny.......when it grinds to shift into gear worry.... lol __________________ Blitz S/C @ 9psi Vegas meet 2011 http://youtu.be/1IEebCmtvP0

07-01-2011, 03:14 PM	#8
Kiteless Drives: US 2007 Yaris Liftback 5MT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Union City, CA - U.S.A. Posts: 205	Just wanna confirm that this is normal, I had totally forgotten about it though because when I war learning how to drive a manual I was told to get into the habit of only putting it in 1st gear at a dead stop or going veeeeeery slow. - Jason __________________ 2007 Toyota Yaris Liftback Base 5 Speed. Mods: Netz/Vitz/RS badging, RS style spoiler, RS replica tails, Tenabe NT210 Springs, Tokico Blue Struts, Team Dynamics 14", fogs(Arrived), JDM HKS Exhaust.

07-01-2011, 06:54 AM	#3
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	^+1^ Also notice if you ever have trouble getting it in reverse, put it in 4th and then try reverse again. will go in nice and smooth..

07-03-2011, 08:27 PM	#10
thepartsmancometh Drives: '08 LB, '07 WRX Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: midwest Posts: 187	try driving a wrx! first is dead stop only unless you double clutch it. ahhhh...the idiosyncrasies of subaru 5 speeds!

07-03-2011, 11:51 PM	#11
swidd Drives: Yaris HB Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Central Alabama, GOD BLESS AMERICA Posts: 755	To get slightly smoother gear handling try just oiling and lubing the gear linkage on top of the gear box... WD-40 and some lube.

07-04-2011, 12:34 AM	#12
rningonfumes Drives: Yaris Sedan 5MT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 865	What kind of driving requires a gear oil change every six months? It seems like overkill. __________________

07-04-2011, 08:09 PM	#13
ecc_33 Drives: 2008 toyota yaris Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: OHIO Posts: 55	one that doesn't use a clutch to shift __________________ 08 toyota yaris with some big tires lol 02 chevy duramax that runs 11.63 at 116 mph in the 1/4 mile

07-04-2011, 10:12 PM	#15
rningonfumes Drives: Yaris Sedan 5MT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 865	Okay, I can understand a track car and hard shifting but not the "drive a lot". There's a reason why they make it a semi-pain to change the gear oil. __________________

07-04-2011, 10:49 PM	#16
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	shouldnt the manual transmission fluid be changed every 40000miles? __________________

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