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Old 06-12-2017, 09:00 PM   #19
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BTW ... You can not notice it in my pic but my stock chrome lug nuts are starting to rust .
Seven New York winters finally got to them.

So, I ordered new ones (e-Bay) which seem to be higher quality and are 'triple plated".
Although they are not exact copies of the stock lugs, they do look just about the same.

One issue is, they need a 3/4" socket instead of a 13/16" like the stock lugs do.

So with knowledge that the stock lug wrench is about worthless....
If you you had to remove a tire with it due to a flat, you might not be able to remove the lug nuts with it
I tried (out of curiosity) and i could not loosen any nuts with the stock lug wrench .

Remember the "Big bang Theory" episode where they could not use a stock lug wrench either to change a flat away from home?
It was funny on TBBT as good comedy must have a bit of realty to it.... but, what if that actually happened to you?

So, today I went to Walmart and got a very nice "4-way" lug wrench for $12. Both problems are solved.


If you would actually use a torque wrench to properly torque the lugs to 103Nm and use anti-seize or other water resistant lubricant (I use white lithium grease), you will see that the stock lug nut wrench is just the right length to achieve similar specified torque when tightening and long enough to break them loose, by anyone. Short maths show that properly torqued and lubed threads won't require much more torque to break loose than it was required when you installed them. I use a torque wrench the same length as the stock lug wrench and it's a breeze to do.

Using an impact wrench on chrome hardware is not recommended, that's why a lot of people both over torque the lug nuts, without any lubing, damaging the threads, and chip off the chrome plating, then complain how rusty and stuck the lug nuts are.
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:33 PM   #20
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Easier said.... when you have your wheels removed for a state (safety) inspection and for tire rotations
It goes goes without saying that lug nuts are removed and tightened with a impact wrench.... and no lube is ever applied.

However, this Wednesday my Yaris will be inspected and the tires will be rotated...... yearly ritual .

When I get the car home, I will remove the stock lugs and install the new ones.
Be assured that I will oil the threads and apply the proper torque.

In any event, a 4-way lug wrench always makes things easier.

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Old 06-12-2017, 11:03 PM   #21
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Hey, if it's for safety inspection, you have all the right to ask the mechanic to re-install the wheels per Toyota specifications, aka properly lubed and torqued ;)
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Old 06-13-2017, 12:10 AM   #22
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If.....If......

There is an old saying.. .. "If the queen had balls, she would be the king"
In other words, "If " can't always have relevance and just proposes the possibility of relevance.

Also, one can asks for anything but, that doesn't mean that they will get it.

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Old 06-13-2017, 12:16 AM   #23
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RedRide, your car looks very nice. Like that colour. The stock black steel wheels with trim rings and centre cap is great! Toyota should have done that on this car instead of the plastic wheel covers.
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Old 06-13-2017, 08:55 AM   #24
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When you are using anti seize or any other lube on the lugs nuts, you need to know that this 103Nm manufacture torque rating is always a dry rating.
So if i was you i'd stay away from experiments like this if you are not aware of what you are doing and just mount your wheels without any lube and the dry torque rating.

Watch this video. He explains it pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3ndeXiZUeM

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Old 06-13-2017, 11:28 AM   #25
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When you are using anti seize or any other lube on the lugs nuts, you need to know that this 103Nm manufacture torque rating is always a dry rating.
So if i was you i'd stay away from experiments like this if you are not aware of what you are doing and just mount your wheels without any lube and the dry torque rating.

Watch this video. He explains it pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3ndeXiZUeM

Some seem to need the last word.on this...
So, I will l let them have it .

I will just say (after all the hyperbole subsides) that they are only lug nuts and not some bolt on the space station.

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Old 06-18-2017, 11:01 PM   #26
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I always found that color interesting, and have only seen one or two in person, but from far away.

The next time you do a full detail, you should polish the paint. I personally like Meguiar's Deep Crystal Polish. It'll bring out even more depth in your carmine red color! It shifted my blazing blue to look like it had some green in it (hard to explain, but the color reminded me of bayside blue on the Nissan Skylines).
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