MI springs and swaybar. Which swaybar? - Toyota Yaris Forums

Flipper_1938 · 06-30-2011, 03:31 PM

I think I am finally over my whiplash enough to finally get lowering springs. I have held off do to the firmer spring rate.

Which swaybar do you guys recommend for a sedan? the 19mm or 23mm? Has anybody here actually tried both?

chewychewbacca · 06-30-2011, 03:36 PM

I would get the 23. I have the 19 but I'm finding that I would like a bit more stiffness. I remember Garm posted that the 23 was a 15% or so increase in anti sway however don't quote me on anything ;)

cali yaris · 06-30-2011, 03:43 PM

There is no downside to the 23mm sway bar, other than price; the sway bar only affects the car in turns.

chewychewbacca · 06-30-2011, 03:47 PM

And I'm very happy with the MI springs. They provide a nice drop and are nice and stiff. Go place your order :)

toy_toronto · 06-30-2011, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flipper_1938

I think I am finally over my whiplash enough to finally get lowering springs. I have held off do to the firmer spring rate.

Which swaybar do you guys recommend for a sedan? the 19mm or 23mm? Has anybody here actually tried both?

I've reasearched this topic so many times and learned quite a bit about swaybars. If you do the same I guarantee you'll make the right choice, guaranteed. (and yes, poster had tried both)

Start here:

Ultra Racing 23mm Rear Stabilizer Bar

My Ultra Racing rear sway bar install

-toy

Flipper_1938 · 06-30-2011, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toy_toronto

I've reasearched this topic so many times and learned quite a bit about swaybars. If you do the same I guarantee you'll make the right choice, guaranteed. (and yes, poster had tried both)

Start here:

Ultra Racing 23mm Rear Stabilizer Bar

My Ultra Racing rear sway bar install

-toy

After reading that, I'm not so sure. I have no plans on autocrossing this car, I just want a lower profile with "sportier" handling.

The ability to induce oversteer at will does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling. I will probably end up getting the 19 mm.

fnkngrv · 06-30-2011, 04:55 PM

I have the 19 and for street driving I find it to be a perfectly fine choice.

Flipper_1938 · 06-30-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fnkngrv

I have the 19 and for street driving I find it to be a perfectly fine choice.

How long have you had it installed?

Kaotic Lazagna · 06-30-2011, 09:39 PM

Here's my suspension set up.

TRD Sportivo Shocks
Tein S.Tech springs
Tanabe front strut bar
TRD rear sway bar (I think TRD is 19mm, right?)
GT-Spec rear sway link brace
2-pt Megan front lower tie bar
2-pt Megan middle lower tie bar
the useless 2-pt Megan rear lower tie bar

Right now, with my generic tires and heavier rims, I have a slight understeer (felt better without the lower tie bars as it was more neutral then). If you would prefer to stay with slight understeer, go with 19mm. I wish I had the 23 mm tho.

cali yaris · 06-30-2011, 09:43 PM

TRD is 19mm, correct.

And yes, I've had both on my car too, both on the street and at the track.

sickpuppy1 · 06-30-2011, 11:16 PM

I have the 19 and want the 23, wonder how we could work out a trade.......had it about 6-8 months....

sickpuppy1 · 06-30-2011, 11:17 PM

shipping would suck though and its included with garms stuff isnt it?

cali yaris · 07-01-2011, 12:41 AM

You'd have to sell it (On here is a good place to try) and then buy a new one.

matthewai · 07-01-2011, 03:54 AM

i have 19 i dont think theres a need to go with the 23 at least for just reg driving around. its great to just have the ability to take turns at 45-50 even with the 19 ive always felt confidant that the car will make it so far

MUSKOKA800 · 07-01-2011, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flipper_1938

I think I am finally over my whiplash enough to finally get lowering springs. I have held off do to the firmer spring rate.

Which swaybar do you guys recommend for a sedan? the 19mm or 23mm? Has anybody here actually tried both?

Adding a 19mm bar will make a world of improvement for both handling and stabiltiy.

That said, I'm now considering the step up to a 23mm bar as understeer is still prevalent. And when the weight of the Blitz S/C is added up front the power-on understeer can only increase. Time will tell.

Flipper_1938 · 07-01-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MUSKOKA800

Adding a 19mm bar will make a world of improvement for both handling and stabiltiy.

That said, I'm now considering the step up to a 23mm bar as understeer is still prevalent. And when the weight of the Blitz S/C is added up front the power-on understeer can only increase. Time will tell.

With your current set-up, in the rain or snow, do you get understeer of oversteer?

Potential crappy handling in bad weather is the only thing making me consider the 19mm one.

fnkngrv · 07-01-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Flipper_1938

How long have you had it installed?

About a year now...you really had to make me think about it...I can't believe that I have had it on as long as I have. I really need to catalog my mods better. You have inspired me to built it all into my OneNote...thanks!

Flipper_1938 · 07-01-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fnkngrv

About a year now...you really had to make me think about it...I can't believe that I have had it on as long as I have. I really need to catalog my mods better. You have inspired me to built it all into my OneNote...thanks!

How does your car handle of slick roads? ...better of worse than stock?

06-30-2011, 03:31 PM	#1
Flipper_1938 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 529	MI springs and swaybar. Which swaybar? I think I am finally over my whiplash enough to finally get lowering springs. I have held off do to the firmer spring rate. Which swaybar do you guys recommend for a sedan? the 19mm or 23mm? Has anybody here actually tried both?

06-30-2011, 03:36 PM	#2
chewychewbacca Drives: 08 Yaris S 3Dr Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 49	I would get the 23. I have the 19 but I'm finding that I would like a bit more stiffness. I remember Garm posted that the 23 was a 15% or so increase in anti sway however don't quote me on anything ;) Last edited by chewychewbacca; 06-30-2011 at 07:10 PM.

06-30-2011, 03:43 PM	#3
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	There is no downside to the 23mm sway bar, other than price; the sway bar only affects the car in turns. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

06-30-2011, 04:55 PM	#7
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	I have the 19 and for street driving I find it to be a perfectly fine choice. __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

06-30-2011, 09:43 PM	#10
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	TRD is 19mm, correct. And yes, I've had both on my car too, both on the street and at the track. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

06-30-2011, 03:47 PM	#4
chewychewbacca Drives: 08 Yaris S 3Dr Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 49	And I'm very happy with the MI springs. They provide a nice drop and are nice and stiff. Go place your order :)

06-30-2011, 09:39 PM	#9
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	Here's my suspension set up. TRD Sportivo Shocks Tein S.Tech springs Tanabe front strut bar TRD rear sway bar (I think TRD is 19mm, right?) GT-Spec rear sway link brace 2-pt Megan front lower tie bar 2-pt Megan middle lower tie bar the useless 2-pt Megan rear lower tie bar Right now, with my generic tires and heavier rims, I have a slight understeer (felt better without the lower tie bars as it was more neutral then). If you would prefer to stay with slight understeer, go with 19mm. I wish I had the 23 mm tho.

06-30-2011, 11:16 PM	#11
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	I have the 19 and want the 23, wonder how we could work out a trade.......had it about 6-8 months.... __________________

06-30-2011, 11:17 PM	#12
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	shipping would suck though and its included with garms stuff isnt it? __________________

07-01-2011, 12:41 AM	#13
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	You'd have to sell it (On here is a good place to try) and then buy a new one. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

07-01-2011, 03:54 AM	#14
matthewai Drives: it is kinda stock Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: united states Posts: 1,258	i have 19 i dont think theres a need to go with the 23 at least for just reg driving around. its great to just have the ability to take turns at 45-50 even with the 19 ive always felt confidant that the car will make it so far

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