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Old 01-25-2019, 03:41 PM   #37
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Sam, I'll pop over to turbokits.com and look at the manifold. Have you ever given thought to parting with your manifold?
I bought it for curiosity as well as for insurance. I wasn't able to get in on the RPM long tube header before it went out of production and I'd rather not get stung that way again. You can buy just the manifold directly from TKC if you don't want to go for a full kit. They also offer packages with the manifold, down tube and your choice of turbo. Granted that's designed for the Corolla/Matrix/Vibe platform so the down tube might not be usable as is. I figure that the whole thing will need to be custom built and the manifold is the only pre-fab part I can use for sure.
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:01 PM   #38
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Who's your tuner? I'm far away from a turbo but would love to have someone to talk about it local if I ever get to that point. I feel like after the Baja conversion and a 2zr swap it would be a fun next step. I plan to keep the Yaris until it won't pass safety anymore and that would be from bad body rust as I can fix anything else. Glad so far the rust has stayed away.
I've spoken twice with Danny from JD Racing in Trois-Ruisseaux. Seems like a very knowledgeable fella.

Lay the oil to the Yaris and you'll never have to deal with rust. I can tell you all the spots to hit. In fact, I just had my '08 up on the hoist today and gave it another blast of Proform.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:34 AM   #39
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Cool. I wish I had access to a hoist. I have to do everything on stands.

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Old 01-26-2019, 10:09 AM   #40
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Cool. I wish I had access to a hoist. I have to do everything on stands.

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Yeah, I do a lot of my stuff on jackstands in my garage, sometimes for rustproofing too. I did my swap in the garage with the car jacked about 18" in the air. Getting the hoist at work is hit and miss. Just before I bring my '06 out in the spring, I'll be doing rustproofing touch ups in the garage with spray cans.

With regard to the turbo, Danny at JD Racing strongly recommends against the AEM FIC in favour of a standalone due to issues with FIC tuning. He says that fuel trims cannot be manipulated in any meaningful way and that the FIC and car's ECU will constantly fighting eachother. I was surprised by this as I've read about successful prepacked turbo kit installs from MWR and tubrokits.com.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:19 AM   #41
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Yeah, I do a lot of my stuff on jackstands in my garage, sometimes for rustproofing too. I did my swap in the garage with the car jacked about 18" in the air. Getting the hoist at work is hit and miss. Just before I bring my '06 out in the spring, I'll be doing rustproofing touch ups in the garage with spray cans.

With regard to the turbo, Danny at JR Racing strongly recommends against the AEM FIC in favour of a standalone due to issues with FIC tuning. He says that fuel trims cannot be manipulated in any meaningful way and that the FIC and car's ECU will constantly fighting eachother. I was surprised by this as I've read about successful prepacked turbo kit installs from MWR and tubrokits.com.
Yea, not news I want to hear. I have plans to install one of them nifty tkc kits.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:15 AM   #42
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Yea, not news I want to hear. I have plans to install one of them nifty tkc kits.
I looked into complete standalone stuff for my pipe dream twin charged 1NZ build and decided that the way to go was a MegaSquirt DIYPNP with the ECU connector from an Echo/MR2 so that I can use the original wire harness and connectors. They don't offer a kit for the Yaris/xD/Corolla ECU connector, so you'd have to fabricate something else. No idea if you'd pass emissions inspection with that since it's only rated for off-road use, but I would tend to think you wouldn't.

Holy crap, they're discontinuing a LOT of those connectors. I should probably get off my ass and buy one before they're gone!
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:33 AM   #43
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I looked into complete standalone stuff for my pipe dream twin charged 1NZ build and decided that the way to go was a MegaSquirt DIYPNP with the ECU connector from an Echo/MR2 so that I can use the original wire harness and connectors. They don't offer a kit for the Yaris/xD/Corolla ECU connector, so you'd have to fabricate something else. No idea if you'd pass emissions inspection with that since it's only rated for off-road use, but I would tend to think you wouldn't.

Holy crap, they're discontinuing a LOT of those connectors. I should probably get off my ass and buy one before they're gone!
I know megasquirt is a fav amongst the vw crowd. Emissions I'm not concerned about as the testing is extinct here in Ontario as of April. Score!
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:53 AM   #44
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If you want to run MS and maintain the VVT it's not cheap, I think you'll need MS3 pro.

I'm going to ditch the VVT and use Microsquirt V2.2 on the Echo.

I was just thinking of posting a wanted ad for a stock computer for the case and connector

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Old 01-30-2019, 12:11 PM   #45
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If you want to run MS and maintain the VVT it's not cheap, I think you'll need MS3 pro.

I'm going to ditch the VVT and use Microsquirt V2.2 on the Echo.

I was just thinking of posting a wanted ad for a stock computer for the case and connector
I think we're getting off track here for the original topic, but I took a look down the rabbit hole of VVTi on a megasquirt. Looks like there's out-of-the-box support for it on the MS3 Pro, but it may be possible to do something with the MicroSquirt if you know what kind of PWM to generate for the cam solenoids and understand how to build the supporting electronics for the variable reluctance (VR) sensors. Definitely outside of my area of experience right now but if you're gonna build real racecars, you have to learn this stuff. =)

As far as the connector goes, you can get one online for less than US$15. https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...w7vTC0RkzXE%3d
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:28 AM   #46
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I bought it for curiosity as well as for insurance. I wasn't able to get in on the RPM long tube header before it went out of production and I'd rather not get stung that way again. You can buy just the manifold directly from TKC if you don't want to go for a full kit. They also offer packages with the manifold, down tube and your choice of turbo. Granted that's designed for the Corolla/Matrix/Vibe platform so the down tube might not be usable as is. I figure that the whole thing will need to be custom built and the manifold is the only pre-fab part I can use for sure.
Don't know how I missed this response, Sam. Thanks for it. Yes, I did see the smaller package kits at turbokits. I figured that the downpipe would work as a stock manifold for the Corolla fits and I assumed they would have maintained close dimensions. That said, having never looked under a Corolla, I'm not sure how much more room there is as compared to the Yaris. And, the diameter of the down pipe apprears significantly larger. My first concern is whether or not the manifold and turbo would actually be small enough to fit between the head and firewall, and have enough clearance for engine movement.


I agree with you that a kit for this configuration (2ZR in Yaris) is probably going to have to be mostly custom and therefore likely very expensive. Also, as far as electronic management of the system, from what I've been reading, the AEM FIC - which is more affordable - is less than ideal when compared to a standalone ecu. That alone could add close to $1000.00 to a project.

I see that a member here has a Camcon for sale and apparently it can adjust fuel and timing, but I think I read that it only works for VVTi, not Dual VVTi. Do you know anything about the Camcon?
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Old 02-11-2019, 01:12 PM   #47
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Don't know how I missed this response, Sam. Thanks for it. Yes, I did see the smaller package kits at turbokits. I figured that the downpipe would work as a stock manifold for the Corolla fits and I assumed they would have maintained close dimensions. That said, having never looked under a Corolla, I'm not sure how much more room there is as compared to the Yaris. And, the diameter of the down pipe apprears significantly larger. My first concern is whether or not the manifold and turbo would actually be small enough to fit between the head and firewall, and have enough clearance for engine movement.
Agreed. 2.25 is plenty big enough for NA, 2.5 is probably fine for mild boost. No idea what 3" would do, but they made it for this engine so I'm assuming they know what they're doing. =D

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I agree with you that a kit for this configuration (2ZR in Yaris) is probably going to have to be mostly custom and therefore likely very expensive. Also, as far as electronic management of the system, from what I've been reading, the AEM FIC - which is more affordable - is less than ideal when compared to a standalone ecu. That alone could add close to $1000.00 to a project.
You could take a gamble and buy the Corolla kit and do some mods to it. Not the best idea since you'd need to redesign a fair bit of it.

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I see that a member here has a Camcon for sale and apparently it can adjust fuel and timing, but I think I read that it only works for VVTi, not Dual VVTi. Do you know anything about the Camcon?
Not familiar with those. Lots of conflicting info about piggybacking on a Toyota ECU, specifically if you can actually wrest control of the fuel trims from the ECU or if you just fight it for a few months and then reset the OEM unit.
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