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Old 08-26-2012, 06:19 PM   #19
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They can be fitted professionaly :)
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:59 PM   #20
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I guess if you believe that it MAY work, the money back guarantee claim is even easier to swallow.

Caveat emptor
Money back guarantee, especially with a small business, is good as long as the company is in business or however long the owner feels like honoring it, WHICHEVER IS SHORTER.
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Old 08-27-2012, 07:20 PM   #21
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This reads like the system we installed in a 2008 Yaris last weekend. We just finished it up yesterday. So far no yellow check engine light. The hydrogen line is attached between the intake and the mass air flow sensor. Now we'll see if the 02 sensor get effected.

Here is the thread of the install. I had a few questions which were answered promptly that really helped.
Thanks again CTScott.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41083

I'm not ready to install this in my own 2012 Yaris just yet. Warranty is nice.
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:28 PM   #22
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Oxygen and Hydrogen love to combine together and release vast amounts of energy...re: Challenger Explosion. So it takes equally vast amounts of energy to break down water into Oxygen and Hydrogen...but unfortunately no hydrolysis process is 100% efficient. So there is a resultant loss of energy. If you had an oil well in your back yard but it cost $15.00/gallon to pump out the oil and refine it to gasoline...would you do it...even tho' the oil is 'free'.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:34 PM   #23
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Oxygen and Hydrogen love to combine together and release vast amounts of energy...re: Challenger Explosion. So it takes equally vast amounts of energy to break down water into Oxygen and Hydrogen...but unfortunately no hydrolysis process is 100% efficient. So there is a resultant loss of energy. If you had an oil well in your back yard but it cost $15.00/gallon to pump out the oil and refine it to gasoline...would you do it...even tho' the oil is 'free'.

Yes and no

There is a drop in what is gained as opposed to what is produced, but bear in mind that the car produces electricity as it is been driven, so there is no real impact on home electricity usage. The engine would supply the electricity needed to power this device (12 volts or less at 30 amps...or less!) so no real impact on anything
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:43 PM   #24
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Ask a chemist how much energy it takes to break water molecules down...the hydrogen-oxygen bond requires a certain amount of energy to break. Using electricity will break the bonds, however...generating electricity causes some loss of energy because no device is 100% efficient. So it always takes more energy to break down water than you can possibly get back when you burn the hydrogen.
Some people reject this argument...they know what they know regardless of the real world. Sort of arguing about whose religion is the 'real' religion.
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