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Old 10-01-2009, 11:10 PM   #55
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Even if it doesn't fit perfectly, it would still be worth a bit of modification to get this bad boy to fit into the car. Thanks for the update mad dog!
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:34 PM   #56
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Old 10-02-2009, 03:32 AM   #57
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:03 AM   #58
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Oh man this is awesome. I would be down for one if the price is reasonable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQJT8...eature=related
What cluster is this? It would be awesome if we could change the text to a white color.
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:47 AM   #59
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yea i would agree, the green reminds me of the old 87 camry's with the same green digital speedos

if you could figure out how to change to the new orange, i would be down for sure
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:05 PM   #60
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yea i would agree, the green reminds me of the old 87 camry's with the same green digital speedos

if you could figure out how to change to the new orange, i would be down for sure
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Old 10-03-2009, 01:47 AM   #61
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prob is green is a secondary color, so any color blended with green will push it to the tertiary color ring

maybe a nice aqua or something would be cool unless there is another way
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Old 10-03-2009, 03:45 AM   #62
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yea i would agree, the green reminds me of the old 87 camry's with the same green digital speedos

if you could figure out how to change to the new orange, i would be down for sure
ditto on wanting it in Amber, need all light up lights to be Amber, cept for my digi tach and ecometer.
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:59 AM   #63
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prob is green is a secondary color, so any color blended with green will push it to the tertiary color ring

maybe a nice aqua or something would be cool unless there is another way
That's additive colors when mixing pigments.

When dealing with subtractive color filtering (AKA, light) green is a primary, which means you need to add other colors to it to make anything else. So unfortunately you can't shift pure green light to anything else, and LEDs make INCREDIBLY pure light.

So if it's green LEDs to start with... no changing that to anything else. Might be some kind of LCD's with fixed-color backlighting though based on LEDs.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:53 AM   #64
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here I am on break from the wedding weekend

hoping CTScott is right and thinking maybe that 50-50 are my chances

i do so appreciate everyone's good wishes and help but i guess we all will not know until i get it and plug it in

the color is of no importance to me - i just hope it physically fits and functions properly as i can't see myself cutting up the dash to make this work out

and remember CTScott is doing everyone here a big favor because- while i'll have a unique and spiffy cluster if it works out- i'll still have to go begging to my dealership to get the odometer reset - while with CTScott's solution of replacing our clock with the tach - while maybe not as spiffy - the odometer will be fine as is

so when you add up the cost of the cluster and postage in Australia, then the postage to the USA (a hefty amount i'm sure) and then the stealership cut to reflash the odometer- this will definately be the high cost solution.

Might even end up rivaling the cost of a new Toyota parts "S" cluster before I'm done. The catnip here is having something unique and very spiffy.

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Old 10-03-2009, 10:12 AM   #65
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here I am on break from the wedding weekend

hoping CTScott is right and thinking maybe that 50-50 are my chances

i do so appreciate everyone's good wishes and help but i guess we all will not know until i get it and plug it in

the color is of no importance to me - i just hope it physically fits and functions properly as i can't see myself cutting up the dash to make this work out

and remember CTScott is doing everyone here a big favor because- while i'll have a unique and spiffy cluster if it works out- i'll still have to go begging to my dealership to get the odometer reset - while with CTScott's solution of replacing our clock with the tach - while maybe not as spiffy - the odometer will be fine as is

so when you add up the cost of the cluster and postage in Australia, then the postage to the USA (a hefty amount i'm sure) and then the stealership cut to reflash the odometer- this will definately be the high cost solution.

Might even end up rivaling the cost of a new Toyota parts "S" cluster before I'm done. The catnip here is having something unique and very spiffy.

Lewis

I've been doing some more reading from the European service manual docs, and I'm up to 90/10 for it working. There are a couple connections that we'll have to add to pick up some features (like a two wire connection for the ambient temperature sensor). Those pins are not populated on the USDM connector, but we have the same sensor for the A/C, so we'll just need to tap it.

I also found that the digital cluster is configurable for Km or Miles (of course via the TechStream tool), so that's another big plus.

For fit, I really think it will be fine. Look a Crashy's open dash, I see plenty of space under the flat area for the chunk.
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Old 10-03-2009, 02:43 PM   #66
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this is 2 exciting, i think imma have 2 take a cold shower
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:16 PM   #67
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That's additive colors when mixing pigments.

When dealing with subtractive color filtering (AKA, light) green is a primary, which means you need to add other colors to it to make anything else. So unfortunately you can't shift pure green light to anything else, and LEDs make INCREDIBLY pure light.

So if it's green LEDs to start with... no changing that to anything else. Might be some kind of LCD's with fixed-color backlighting though based on LEDs.
yea that is true, i should be thinking in terms of RGB

i dont think you can change it, it would rock if it was orange, like the nice bright orange Pontiac use to have
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:23 PM   #68
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I am pretty sure that the display is a VFD (vacuum fluorescent display). I thought the color or colors of the display were not changeable, but I ran into these:

"The light produced by most VFDs contains many colours and can often be filtered to produce a more-pure (saturated) colour such as a deep green or deep blue, depending on the whims of the product's designers."


"Optional Color Optical Filters & Luminance
Every Noritake VFD has a self emitting light with a wide color spectrum. This distinctive characteristic of the display will allow for virtually any display color presentation by adding a cost effective 3rd party colored material."
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I remembered that the clock in the USDM non-tach clusters is a VFD. I grabbed Crashy's and did some experimentation.

Clock display with redish lens removed (display is greenish blue without lens):
Clock.jpg

Green-blue.jpg


Powered with red lens on, as it would be in the car (display is white):
White.jpg

With blue film, display is blue:
Blue.jpg

With red lens and amber plastic, display is yellow:
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So, matching the 09 orange display is probably just a matter of adding an orange colored film plus a red film.
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NICE!

great work!

now i would be down for one of these clusters if this works

both that blue and yellow is kinda cool as well
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:59 PM   #72
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CTScott has become a considerable addition to the community, great props!
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