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View Poll Results: How many miles do you get per tank pick the closest
430 27 23.28%
400 23 19.83%
370 26 22.41%
340 18 15.52%
310 15 12.93%
280 7 6.03%
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:25 AM   #1
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Miles per tank

How many miles do you get before your car gets to the first line in the fuel gauge?
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:29 AM   #2
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I usually get 365-375 a tank. But I drive like a maniac.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:47 AM   #3
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I picked 370 because that's my average so far. I've been as low as 329, and as high as 460. I usually start looking for a gas station once I hit 2 bars.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:58 AM   #4
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My average over the first 76 fill ups is 671 km's or 417 miles. That includes all fills (even partials) since purchase and before I started driving more intelligently.

My best is 947 km's or 588 miles, and in the summer I get consistently over 850 km's or 520 miles. I usually fill up when the last bar is blinking.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:58 AM   #5
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i drive like a bat outta hell and 80% of my driving is city traffic. that doesn't help my mileage any =P
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:17 AM   #6
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I've just filled up diesel in my tank.
I drove 675 km (420 miles) but it didn't reach the the first bar though.

I had 8.45 liters left (2.23 US gallon).

I calculated my last tank and my diesel Yaris did 45.2 MPG.
Average highway speeds of 78 MPH, A/C on, fast traffic light acceleration.
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:24 PM   #7
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I average about 475 miles between fill ups. My personal best so far is 562 miles.
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:34 PM   #8
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I picked 400, but it usually shows 375 because I always refuel with 2 bars still showing. Running near empty isn't great on the fuel pump's health.
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:51 PM   #9
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Running near empty isn't great on the fuel pump's health.
Over 4 million miles of hypermiling road usage and tank drainage has shown no evidence to support this. This has also been debunked on several automotive shows and in automotive blogs. Additionally, no modern Toyota owner's manual mentions anything about this.

I have also heard folks inanely talk about sediment being a problem with a low fuel level. This is a non-issue for two reasons: 1) Our fuel pump has in intake screen that blocks any debris over an unacceptable size, and 2) It's not like most of that sediment is buoyant anyway, meaning it is always in the bottom of the tank regardless of the fuel level.
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Over 4 million miles of hypermiling road usage and tank drainage has shown no evidence to support this. This has also been debunked on several automotive shows and in automotive blogs. Additionally, no modern Toyota owner's manual mentions anything about this.

I have also heard folks inanely talk about sediment being a problem with a low fuel level. This is a non-issue for two reasons: 1) Our fuel pump has in intake screen that blocks any debris over an unacceptable size, and 2) It's not like most of that sediment is buoyant anyway, meaning it is always in the bottom of the tank regardless of the fuel level.
They wouldn't. Most manuals make no mention of timing belt service, even when most aren't free-wheeling design and will cause instantly bent valves. So, if they won't warn about major engine damage in the owner's manual, don't expect them to get you excited about a fuel pump. You're not in the real world, you're just a reader. I've changed 6 fuel pumps in the past 10 years, on ONE vehicle. All brand new AC Delco/Delphi fuel pumps, wire harness replaced each time...lady finally admitted that her fuel gauge almost never gets above 1/4 and doesn't put in the $5 or whatever is handy until the low fuel light has been on for a while. It's been over 2 years now and her fuel pump isn't giving her trouble now, since she now refuels before low fuel light warns her.

And the sediment isn't just in the bottom of the tank, it's also at the bottom of the fuel tray that the fuel pump is mounted in. Fuel pump intake screens with remote mounted filters isn't something new and isn't a very good excuse. Countless thousands of in-tank fuel pumps have failed and all of them have some sort of strainer or filter mounted to the pump, and they failed, so it's something besides non-sediment that's causing them to fail. If you can list even one make or model of car that has in-tank fuel pumps installed without a straining device I'd sure like to know.

But of course this isn't the way you do it so it's a sure bet that I'm wrong. Like the guy that just posted that he wished he had more HP...since it didn't agree with your way of thinking and your needs you told him his opinion wasn't valid. I didn't call you on it but another member did.
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1stToyota,

Your limited personal experience with one brand of cars by no means trumps the diverse and extensive testbed of the entire hypermiling community. I know you would not embellish your personal experiences but please recognize how limited in scope they are, and take that into account when sharing information as fact.
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Your limited personal experience with one brand of cars by no means trumps the diverse and extensive testbed of the entire hypermiling community. I know you would not embellish your personal experiences but please recognize how limited in scope they are, and take that into account when sharing information as fact.
Reader, low fuel level will even set trouble codes and cause boost problems. Millions of cars have those codes established in their library by the car manufacturer, and read by millions of scanners being built and used in the auto repair industry. Alldata and Mitchell even have tech bulletins (from OEM sources) dealing with damage to fuel pumps from extended low fuel levels.

Hypermilers test double psi tires and say no effect on treadwear, handling, braking, etc...?

Of course a hypermiler fuel pumps and tires are designed special and will never fail when non-hypermilers can experience problems to the same systems.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:50 PM   #13
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370 more or less cty/hwy
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:30 PM   #14
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Wow I really wanted to see this. Mine is a 2007 hatchback. I only get 300 per tank. I tried changing plugs and air filter but no cheese. I use 87 but it did not get better with 89. Any ideas what to check for?
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Hello Joe,

Please get comfortable and read through the stickied FE thread at the top of this forum. Here is a direct link to it:

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5979
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I picked 400, but it usually shows 375 because I always refuel with 2 bars still showing.
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Old 04-22-2009, 05:46 PM   #18
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Usually around 360 - 375. Did make it to 414.7 once, then the car shut off. Don't really recommend that at all.

I try to fill up when I get to 2 bars just to be safe.
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