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Old 09-28-2010, 10:57 AM   #1
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Please post a picture of a DIY cruise stalk with the horn-to-cruise wire installed

Can someone please post a picture of a DIY cruise stalk with the horn-to-cruise wire/stalk installed? I want to see exactly where I'm supposed to run all the wires I ordered (minus the ECM one - found that one already.)

ALL the DIY's are missing this crucial step to the install for an '06-'08!


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Old 09-28-2010, 11:40 AM   #2
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Can someone please post a picture of a DIY cruise stalk with the horn-to-cruise wire/stalk installed? I want to see exactly where I'm supposed to run all the wires I ordered (minus the ECM one - found that one already.)

ALL the DIY's are missing this crucial step to the install for an '06-'08!


Thanks a bunch!

Here's a picture of mine. The horn wire stays in the same place (upper left - pin 1). The two cruise control wire pins go to pins 3 and 4 (bottom two and it doesn't matter which to which).
Cruise - Steering Wheel.jpg

Here's what the steering wheel side connector (V1) of the spiral cable looks like:
Cruise - Conn V1.jpg



Here's the other side - Connector D3. Someone who recently installed a cruise stalk on an 07 or 08 said that for them D3 only had one pin besides the horn pin. This picture is from Crashy, who is an 08 and has all three pins:
Cruise - Conn D3.jpg


If yours only has two pins on D3 and V1, then you will just connect one of the stalk wires to other pin (and again leave the horn wire in the same pin). You will then ground the other cruise stalk wire to one of the screws into the steering wheel frame.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:08 PM   #3
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can be this done on the european yaris
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:14 PM   #4
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can be this done on the european yaris
No - The ECM for the European Yaris doesn't have cruise control capability.
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:( so the only option is aftermarket cruise control ? I need only on and off what is the cheapest and easiest to instal ?
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:27 PM   #6
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:( so the only option is aftermarket cruise control ? I need only on and off what is the cheapest and easiest to instal ?
The aftermarket one that I posted in the other thread. It's not as simple as adding switches, since your ECM lacks the programming.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:33 PM   #7
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and changing the ECm will not solve this problem ? how much will it cost ?
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and changing the ECm will not solve this problem ? how much will it cost ?
The ECM is specific to the engine. The US only gets the 1NZ-FE engine (1.5L), so it appears that Toyota only programs the 1NZ-FE ECM with the cruise control functionality.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:54 PM   #9
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Thanks alot Scott, exactly what I was looking for!



The write-ups should include this info (and the D3 one-pin or three-pin issue), as it is very vague in all of them. Usually only a mild reference to grounding is made.
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Old 09-29-2010, 04:30 PM   #11
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Nevermind, I got where the connector is located.


Next question...


Where's that damn write-up of the ECU connector (and how to insert the pin)?

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Nevermind, I got where the connector is located.


Next question...


Where's that damn write-up of the ECU connector (and how to insert the pin)?
I'm out and about right now, but do a search for "cruise FAQ" and you'll find it.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:36 PM   #13
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Found it, was hiding in the PDF file.



I can't seem to find the instructions related to inserting the pins into the white D3 connector. I can see where the connector is (will make a better tutorial later for situations like mine), just want to deal with this two-pin or three-pin situation in my DIY (FYI, the clockspring and connector under the steering wheel both have three pins... And I have an early '07).

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Found it, was hiding in the PDF file.



I can't seem to find the instructions related to inserting the pins into the white D3 connector. I can see where the connector is (will make a better tutorial later for situations like mine), just want to deal with this two-pin or three-pin situation in my DIY (FYI, the clockspring and connector under the steering wheel both have three pins... And I have an early '07).
I think they all have the three. I think the person who said there were only two on his was mistaken.

To add the pins to D3:

1. Release the lock by prying it up with a small screwdriver (it only lifts about 0.5mm):
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2. Insert the pin as shown:
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:15 PM   #15
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Now... This may seem a little looney... But how exactly did your horn wire/connector end up on a laminate table?



Does the order of the wire matter as well? (I mean, beyond the basic fundamentals that the connectors I'm inserting have to connect to a pin... duh. )


And yes, the two-pin must be a mistake. Mine is an early-build from '07, so I can't see why someone's down the line wouldn't have it.
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Now... This may seem a little looney... But how exactly did your horn wire/connector end up on a laminate table?
If you pull hard enough you can get any of them onto your desk. I actually raided a junkyard Yaris a few months ago and grabbed a bunch of connectors.

And, on the order, it actually doesn't matter which connects to which on the stalk.
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If you pull hard enough you can get any of them onto your desk. I actually raided a junkyard Yaris a few months ago and grabbed a bunch of connectors.

And, on the order, it actually doesn't matter which connects to which on the stalk.
LOL!



I liked your first reason better.



I figured as much.


I'm perplexed as to how this thing works, I mean, internally to the ECU. How does it recognize the difference between on-off, set-resume with just one wire (ground doesn't count)?
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LOL!



I liked your first reason better.



I figured as much.


I'm perplexed as to how this thing works, I mean, internally to the ECU. How does it recognize the difference between on-off, set-resume with just one wire (ground doesn't count)?

The wire to the ECM is being looked at with respect to ground. The ECM measures the voltage drop on the pin, which varies from 12V (with no buttons pressed) down to 0V, when the on/off button is pressed. The resistors between the other switches produce voltage drops between the two end points.
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