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Old 12-03-2009, 10:32 AM   #19
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im glad there are a bunch of you who agree because thebarber is PMing about my "negitive comment" lol
You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't get what basis you have for speculating that the fiesta will "die" any sooner than other cars. Pretty much every brand of modern car on the road - other than Chrysler passenger cars - seem to be capable of 200k+ miles with reasonable maintainence.

The last 5 years or so of Ford motors have been as good as any, and I am a long-time Ford hater.

That being said, if they decide to bring the European Fiesta RS to the US, I'll probably be selling my Yaris. The Top Gear "test" sold me!
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:40 AM   #20
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did you bother to read that article i posted?

i like the design, it looks good but not when its only rated for 150K

for toyota / honda 150K is still low miles
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:44 PM   #21
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Too bad you can't get this car in the States... well at least as far as Fords go...

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html
No, the STI will have to do. Probably around the same price as one and not a Ford.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:46 PM   #22
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+1 anyone have actual data? edmunds says starting at 15 something.
$13,320 for the sedan, and $15,120 for the hatchback. I think they're pretty good looking, but can get a little pricy ($20,540 as shown .)

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fiesta/
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Old 12-03-2009, 03:41 PM   #23
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bah, you have pink wheels, what do you know?

id rock one

longer, wider, and lower than a yaris....better power/weight AND 30/40

yep, id hit it
that's estimated 30/40

bigger isn't always better
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:31 AM   #24
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It looks like Ford has a better chance of surviving than GM.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:35 AM   #25
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of course they do, ford didn't take a government bribe.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:24 AM   #26
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That's because the got lucky with a few choices they made previous to the fallout. It's not like the Ford execs are any smarter than anyone else, which is probably why you don't see them running around too much bragging about their financial genius...
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:25 PM   #27
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That's because the got lucky with a few choices they made previous to the fallout. It's not like the Ford execs are any smarter than anyone else, which is probably why you don't see them running around too much bragging about their financial genius...
Lucky? It didn't have too much to do with luck. Ford was smart enough not to have a gazillion different car brands, and even more dealers. Plus ford cars have always been slightly better than gm or chrysler. And that F150 thing helps too. How many years straight has it been the top selling vehicle?
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:12 PM   #28
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And that F150 thing helps too. How many years straight has it been the top selling vehicle?

Ford didn't take a bailout because they have been living out of a nearly $27 billion credit account they set up in 2006 and were already closing dealers and cutting production prior to the collapse. So, yes, they are brilliant for taking out loans, closing dealers, cutting production and firing many, well ahead of their competition.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:46 AM   #29
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You can build your own Ford Fiesta here:

http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.com/2011-Ford-Fiesta
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:04 AM   #30
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The price is a bit higher though. I built one on the ford site and it was right at 19. But that was pretty much every option i could ever think about wanting.

But then agian. Building the yaris as close as I could to the same it came out to 18.5 and couldnt even get a manual in the 5 door. So.
yeah.
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:18 AM   #31
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i saw one of these at an autox while i was in detroit michigan. the suspension is nearly IDENTICAL to the yaris. front strut, rear twist beam.
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:53 AM   #32
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Saw it in person at the Auto Show, was more impressed with the Mazda2
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Old 01-21-2010, 02:28 PM   #33
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Newly updated on Ford website.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fiesta/



This car really impresses me. In fact, Ford is beating all expectations with every model it introduces. I can't see myself ever leaving Toyota, but if Ford keeps doing what it's doing, they'll be hard to resist.

If that 30/40 mpg rating holds up through the EPA testing, then this is a game changer for non-hybrids. The Yaris is the current leader with a 29/36 rating (although it's underrated) but I suspect like most cars, the Fiesta will beat EPA estimates as well. It's that 6th gear that makes all the difference. Toyota needs to follow suit.

The interior quality sets a new standard for this class as well currently set by the Fit. Although space efficiency isn't as good as the Fit, Yaris, and Versa.

My only lagging concern with Ford is long term reliability (Toyota and Honda level). You know, being able to go 300,000-400,000 miles on the original engine with little issues. If they can prove that, then their set.
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Old 01-22-2010, 08:29 AM   #34
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It's not like the Ford execs are any smarter than anyone else, which is probably why you don't see them running around too much bragging about their financial genius...
Actually in the months prior to the banking crisis Ford took out loans on several plants and technical centers, to increase cash on hand, making government loans unnecessary.

I don't think it was luck that made them suddenly decide to stock up on millions in cash.

Maybe when your good enough you don't have to brag.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:10 AM   #35
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Sadly, even though Ford is doing the best, they have the most debt to overcome because they avoided bankruptcy. Although GM is close if you count bailout money that they say they will pay back.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:24 AM   #36
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There's no arguing the new Fiesta is a nice car and obviously Ford has put much thought into this. Afterall, it is a blooming segment and Ford wants in as once a very strong contender in this segment with the Fiesta. In the meantime, others have passed it in terms of quality, design and features, but I think the Fiesta could bring Ford back into the small car game.
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