Nitrous - Safe Shot System - a safer alternative - Toyota Yaris Forums

fuji · 04-15-2009, 10:30 PM

I was looking on the forum for information on reputable nitrous systems. The conclusion I came to was a complete system is the way to go and short cuts/cheap cuts are risky.

I was on the ZEX website and found a cute little system which might work well for some Yaris drivers looking for occasional excitement for their daily driver without too much of a hit on their wallet. The system is the Safe Shot Nitrous System and adds only 15-35hp(probably depends on the application)

http://www.compperformancegroupstore...de=KitsFuelDry

fuji · 04-15-2009, 10:32 PM

The other cool thing is it is black and costs about $315

What are your guys thoughts on this???

yarstar · 04-15-2009, 10:42 PM

This might go really good with that TB spacer Alex is developing. Thanks for the link.

PHXDEMON · 04-15-2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yarstar

This might go really good with that TB spacer Alex is developing. Thanks for the link.

Word. Hopefully he gets those done pretty soon

fuji · 04-16-2009, 03:11 AM

How hard do you think it would be to set up without a throttle body spacer? I can imagine you want the port for the nitrous as close to the throttle body as possible.

dallas · 04-16-2009, 03:11 AM

Its a dry system, no fuel is delivered with the nitrous, the car has to compensate, I guess with only 30 hp it;s o.k, but most people state a wet system is more reliable.

blacksandiegovitz · 04-16-2009, 03:19 AM

[QUOTE=fuji;290035]The other cool thing is it is black and costs about $315

What are your guys thoughts on this???[/QUOTE]

I was planning on picking a dry kit just like this . I've been lurking around scionlife and many 1nz-fe xA/xB's are running a 35hp jet with a dry kit all day long (in some posts years) with no problems or drop in compression . Its really about not abusing the bottle.

fuji · 04-16-2009, 03:23 AM

I have heard the same thing. I was hoping if you are not adding too much horsepower this would not be an issue but I do not know nearly enough about this topic to know. More research is necessary.

It looks like you can basically introduce the nitrous just about anywhere. Any suggestions on the best place to introduce the nitro???

Nexus1155 · 04-16-2009, 10:09 AM

hahaha that air filter is pretty pimp for a dry kit IMO, if they sold a small cheap wet kit like that i'd be all over it...

cali yaris · 04-16-2009, 10:30 AM

I have two wet kits used for sale, one complete the other not:

http://picasaweb.google.com/mcroimg/NOSKitsForSale#

PM me for detals

fuji · 04-16-2009, 12:13 PM

This special air filter with the ZEX dry kit sounds like a great beginner system!

whooppee777 · 04-16-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by camelll

I have never used nitrous and then to top it all off I don't know what this would do with the supercharger. It will certainly cool the intake air temp but I would like to hear from some people who have experience with nitrous.

i had an interesting oppurtunity to chat with a guy who works at a shop in VA who was competing in an autocross event i was at back in March.

He has a turbo Xa, and was once running the same blitz supercharger with Nitrous. if im not mistaken he was using a wet kit and the car ran fine with the boost and nitrous, he said the nitrous helped prevent detonation since it cooled his intake charge. but he got greedy and used to large of a shot of nitrous and blew the engine. couldnt tell u exactly how big his shot was but i think it was probably a 50 shot that killed it. he also said he had a lot of issues with the belt slipping with the blitz kit and thats y he ultimately went turbo.

my plan is to in a year or less to add nitrous. Just cuz i'm nuckn futz.

is this one of those kits that engages at WOT?

whooppee777 · 04-17-2009, 01:04 PM

considering that the blitz supercharger on average should put about 130 hp to the wheels, an extra 35hp will put u at 165hp which i would say is a safe number considering that the turbo guys r pushing nearly 180hp with no issues

whooppee777 · 04-17-2009, 01:07 PM

u said this doesnt add fuel to the mix of n2o? so my question is does the n2o jet have to come before the MAF or could u use the spacer plate that the guy is fabricating that will have the jet ported already on the spacer, which will come after the n2o?

fuji · 04-17-2009, 03:25 PM

Wouldn't you want the nitrous introduced prior to reaching the MAF even for a dry kit? My reasoning is the dry nitrous hits the MAF - the MAF sees there is more oxygen - more fuel is releaed.

Nexus1155 · 04-17-2009, 04:24 PM

Ummmm as far as I know the dry kit is safe to spray before the MAF as you are correct it will adjust for it in a fashion due to monitoring IAT if the yaris has a sensor for it. The kit looks like it has a directional sprayer so you will be able to install it with our adapter as long as the tapping is correct for it.

We didn't opt to put this thing more downstream on the intake as when you spray it has potential to hit the throttle body butterfly and not deliver the whole nitrous shot and can cause a puddle in the intake...Also, I don't think you want to be spraying anything onto the MAF sensor thermoresistor dealy

04-15-2009, 10:42 PM	#3
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04-16-2009, 10:30 AM	#10
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I have two wet kits used for sale, one complete the other not: http://picasaweb.google.com/mcroimg/NOSKitsForSale# PM me for detals __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

04-17-2009, 01:04 PM	#13
whooppee777 I used to have 1700 posts View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 808	considering that the blitz supercharger on average should put about 130 hp to the wheels, an extra 35hp will put u at 165hp which i would say is a safe number considering that the turbo guys r pushing nearly 180hp with no issues __________________ *First Boosted Yaris On The East Coast*

04-17-2009, 01:07 PM	#14
whooppee777 I used to have 1700 posts View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 808	u said this doesnt add fuel to the mix of n2o? so my question is does the n2o jet have to come before the MAF or could u use the spacer plate that the guy is fabricating that will have the jet ported already on the spacer, which will come after the n2o? __________________ *First Boosted Yaris On The East Coast*

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04-15-2009, 10:32 PM	#2
fuji Drives: Polar White Yaris HB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honolulu Posts: 263	The other cool thing is it is black and costs about $315 What are your guys thoughts on this???

04-16-2009, 03:11 AM	#5
fuji Drives: Polar White Yaris HB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honolulu Posts: 263	How hard do you think it would be to set up without a throttle body spacer? I can imagine you want the port for the nitrous as close to the throttle body as possible.

04-16-2009, 03:11 AM	#6
dallas Drives: Yaris Hatch /Landrover D2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 242	Its a dry system, no fuel is delivered with the nitrous, the car has to compensate, I guess with only 30 hp it;s o.k, but most people state a wet system is more reliable.

04-16-2009, 03:19 AM	#7
blacksandiegovitz Your mom goes to college View User's Garage Drives: 08 Vitz Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Just chillin' out brah ! Posts: 1,434	[QUOTE=fuji;290035]The other cool thing is it is black and costs about $315 What are your guys thoughts on this???[/QUOTE] I was planning on picking a dry kit just like this . I've been lurking around scionlife and many 1nz-fe xA/xB's are running a 35hp jet with a dry kit all day long (in some posts years) with no problems or drop in compression . Its really about not abusing the bottle.

04-16-2009, 03:23 AM	#8
fuji Drives: Polar White Yaris HB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honolulu Posts: 263	I have heard the same thing. I was hoping if you are not adding too much horsepower this would not be an issue but I do not know nearly enough about this topic to know. More research is necessary. It looks like you can basically introduce the nitrous just about anywhere. Any suggestions on the best place to introduce the nitro???

04-16-2009, 10:09 AM	#9
Nexus1155 Bathroom + Laptop = <3 Drives: Audi Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dorchester Posts: 1,009	hahaha that air filter is pretty pimp for a dry kit IMO, if they sold a small cheap wet kit like that i'd be all over it...

04-17-2009, 03:25 PM	#15
fuji Drives: Polar White Yaris HB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honolulu Posts: 263	Wouldn't you want the nitrous introduced prior to reaching the MAF even for a dry kit? My reasoning is the dry nitrous hits the MAF - the MAF sees there is more oxygen - more fuel is releaed.

04-17-2009, 04:24 PM	#16
Nexus1155 Bathroom + Laptop = <3 Drives: Audi Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dorchester Posts: 1,009	Ummmm as far as I know the dry kit is safe to spray before the MAF as you are correct it will adjust for it in a fashion due to monitoring IAT if the yaris has a sensor for it. The kit looks like it has a directional sprayer so you will be able to install it with our adapter as long as the tapping is correct for it. We didn't opt to put this thing more downstream on the intake as when you spray it has potential to hit the throttle body butterfly and not deliver the whole nitrous shot and can cause a puddle in the intake...Also, I don't think you want to be spraying anything onto the MAF sensor thermoresistor dealy