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Old 08-11-2017, 05:21 PM   #181
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We tow a trailer-shop that weighs about 400kg (I do not know how many lbs are) and the truth is that when we find a slope up the car costs quite up, we did not consider buying a caravan for that problem, it is a 1.4 D4D of 90cv


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Nosotros remolcamos un remolque tienda que pesa unos 400kg (no se cuantas libras son) y la verdad que cuando encontramos una cuesta hacia arriba el coche le cuesta bastante subir, no nos planteamos comprar una caravana por ese problema, es un 1.4 D4D de 90cv.
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Old 09-02-2017, 01:21 PM   #182
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We tow a trailer-shop that weighs about 400kg (I do not know how many lbs are) and the truth is that when we find a slope up the car costs quite up, we did not consider buying a caravan for that problem, it is a 1.4 D4D of 90cv


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Nosotros remolcamos un remolque tienda que pesa unos 400kg (no se cuantas libras son) y la verdad que cuando encontramos una cuesta hacia arriba el coche le cuesta bastante subir, no nos planteamos comprar una caravana por ese problema, es un 1.4 D4D de 90cv.
I wish north america had Amber turn signals on trailers.
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Old 09-02-2017, 01:39 PM   #183
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I wish north america had Amber turn signals on trailers.
I wish North America had Amber turn signals on ALL vehicles.
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Old 09-02-2017, 03:58 PM   #184
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Old 09-02-2017, 06:46 PM   #185
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Old 03-10-2018, 03:47 PM   #186
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Cool great story

great story / I too, have carried way too much weight and been aboard friends that have done the same and once heard a leaf spring go cling clang as we turned the corner in his van with construction equipment for everything. I carried 68 doors thru an ice storm on a pickup meant for 32 doors, but hey, its ice, make one trip, not two.
I have towed about 2200 pounds with my Yaris, and nope, didn't like it, but did it. Just go slow.
I regularly tow the garbage to the dump in mine, and occasionally the oddity like 5 sliding door panels laid flat n hopin not to break the glass, etc and so on.
Gonna get me a boat soon, and while I will tow down the road, I will limit the slopes as to what my car drops in the water, so as to not get pulled back in, LOL.
But, my car tows up to 700 comfortably. 700-1200 a bit more tasked but still gets the job done. 1200-2200 very tasked and asking for tranny troubles in my mind. But, can get the job done, especially on more level terrain.
I will be gettin a hitch for the Camry, for the heavier duty or steeper inclined tasks as that has 268 HP to our 105-125 pending upgrades.



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Here's an article about towing (written by an xB owner) - it even mentions the Yaris. Look at the rest of the world, and read this. Then decide...

The Great American Anti-Towing Conspiracy
By Paul Niedermeyer
February 23, 2008 -

“Scion does not recommend towing a trailer… your vehicle was not designed for towing." Welcome to the great American anti-towing conspiracy. Manufacturers of anything less than a big SUV or pick-up are trying to take away our God-given right to tow with our cars. For a guy who’s towed everything from a Radio Flyer wagon behind a pedal-powered John Deere sidewalk tractor, to a three-bedroom house, I feel like I’m being singled out. Of course, there’s a possibility that I’m the cause as well as the target of this jihad. A lot of lawyers do drive the Ventura Freeway, and one of them may well have seen my spectacular stunt with a trailer.

Before I recount the creative maneuver with which I simultaneously occupied all four lanes of “the world’s busiest freeway” at sixty-five mph, let’s look at the prejudice American would-be towers are up against …

On Toyota’s UK website, the Yaris is credited with a towing capacity of 1050kg/2315lbs. That’s right in line with the old rule of thumb that a car can safely tow an amount equal to its own weight.

But here in the land of the (not so) free, the Yaris’ owner’s manual admonishes: “Toyota does not recommend towing a trailer with your vehicle.” The unnamed author goes on to give a partial pass to our northern neighbors: “In Canada only, total weight of cargo and trailer not to exceed 700lbs.” Please leave your trailers at the border? Perhaps this partial exemption reflects Canada’s status as being somewhere between English and American. But the logic is lost on me.

Maybe it’s a blatant tactic by Toyota to meet Tundra sales goals, by forcing us tow-heads into buying that over-achieving tug (rated for 10,000+lbs). But Honda is in on the conspiracy too. The CRV weighs 3600lbs and offers 166hp, about the same as an old gen Explorer. In Europe, where folks often buy CUV’s specifically for their towing capacity, the CRV is rated to tow 2000kg/4400lbs. And in the tow-aphobic US? A measly 1500lbs!

It wasn’t always like this. In the sixties, you’d see 40hp VW Beetles pulling a trailer. In 1976, my VW Beetle died in Ohio heading back to Iowa, so we left it and hitch-hiked the rest of the way. My girlfriend’s Mom was driving a 70hp Corolla, which was rated to tow 1800lbs, exactly the weight of my VW. She generously offered it. Towing the Bug home, the Corolla never broke a sweat.

Which I can’t say for myself when I nearly shut down the 101.

It was 1986. We had just bought our first house, in Woodland Hills. I rented a big double-axle twelve-foot trailer to haul debris and junk to the dump. My Mexican helper was a zealous worker, loading lots of broken concrete into the back end of the trailer. I remember glancing at the warning sign about having 60 percent of the weight ahead of the axles. But any fleeting thought of relevancy or concern was quickly overpowered by the testosterone-fueled urge to PULL!

That trailer must have weighed about three times as much as the Jeep Cherokee tug. I managed to squeeze into the perpetually crowded Ventura freeway.

When our rig (finally) hit 65 in the right lane, the trailer began oscillating, which escalated exponentially. The next thing I knew, the Jeep was being swung wildly from side to side, like the tail on a dog. One moment, we were facing towards the shoulder, then across all the lanes facing the center divider. The Jeep was utterly out of control; there was nothing to do but hang on for dear life, waiting for the fishtailing trailer to roll and/or get creamed by the four lanes of traffic behind us.

Fortunately, the other drivers (and that corporate attorney) were on the ball and held back, in awe of our mad gyrations. When enough speed was scrubbed off and stability resumed, we found ourselves in the narrow left shoulder, where we sat bathed in sweat.

I had no choice but to steel myself, get back in the traffic, and fight my way across four lanes while keeping the speed below fifty. When we finally pulled off on the right shoulder, my ashen-faced helper tumbled out, got on his knees and crossed himself, before we started re-arranging the trailer’s load.

Having learned that cardinal lesson of towing, I’m a hair more cautious now. But I still believe that cars, by their nature, are “designed for towing.” So I always carry a tow rope in the old Ford pick-up instead of an AAA card. More than once, Stephanie has schlepped me home with the Forester. I don’t even want to know what its tow rating is; it’s survived just fine. And I’ve found an after-market hitch for the xB, rated for 2000lbs.
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:33 PM   #187
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just thought i'd add a quick story about towing with a yaris! today i took an old big-screen tv(think 55" console-style) to the recycling fair in town. i rented a uhaul 5x8 open trailer and performed all the trailer wiring myself last week. i installed a t-connector kit from reese that was made specifically for the yaris sedan(don't ask me why it's just made for the sedan- i think it just has to do with the length of the black wire that goes from the battery to the control module). i've had the hitch installed for many years, but was only using it to haul bikes.

it was actually kind of fun to do once i got the nervousness dealt with(i've never towed a trailer before)! just go slow, give yourself lots of room for braking, and take the turns carefully. i got lots of looks from people at the fair who probably have never seen a small car with such a big trailer!
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Old 07-28-2018, 06:45 PM   #188
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you can add them to trailers for 20$
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Old 04-02-2019, 05:42 AM   #189
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i tow at about 1300 pounds. no problems. trailer has brakes. full timing in a teardrop. pulls fine, tho you got to push it. 55 is a pain. 65 is much eaiser.
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