yaris over 60mpg wiith xynergy......... - Toyota Yaris Forums

marcus · 07-27-2010, 10:45 PM

this might be a repost but interesting but dont know how legit this is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qNBO...eature=related

firemachine69 · 07-28-2010, 01:28 AM

I believe the term we use is "snake oil"...

Ask yourself this... If all it took was a magic elixir to boost all the manufacturers' MPG ratings, then why aren't they using it?

daf62757 · 08-04-2010, 11:11 AM

I see a lot of tubes......but I don't see them going anywhere.

If this stuff worked, you would see it sell for $1K or more.

1NZYaris1 · 08-04-2010, 05:37 PM

Actually this is one of the better systems , or set ups i have seen .
Yes it works , but to the degree that they state in the Vid

.
i wouldn't think so .
the reason you dont see it on OEM cars is because this system
is way too Volitile and has the tendancy to explode

if not monitored and tuned properly .
i know this from experiance

This system is very similar to the Hydrogen cell cars
and you dont see them because they are too volitile at the moment .

marcus · 08-04-2010, 06:13 PM

good to know....

nmgolfer · 08-14-2010, 11:34 AM

This device is NOT a way to run your car on water. This device is an on the fly "Brown's gas" or HHO generator that feeds a small amount of pure hydrogen into the intake.

The idea is that by adding a small amount of pure hydrogen gas to the intake engine efficiency can be significantly improved with the resultant savings far offsetting the electricity needed to crack the water (separate the hydrogen molecules) in the first place. The Pulse Code Module (PCM) hits the hydrogen cell (the part that separates water into hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis) with a tunable frequency (an AC voltage) which is found to increase the efficiency of the cracking process. The key is to find the resonant frequency at which hydrogen production is maximized and thats no easy trick though an inventor (Stanley Meyer) in the midwest is said to have done it.

I've been following these garage home-brew experimenters for a couple of years now and there may very well be something to it. One guy in particular has taken a methodical approach to his development process. He goes by the name zerofossilfuel and he has lots of videos documenting his research and results: http://www.youtube.com/user/ZeroFossilFuel .

Again this is a Brown's gas "additive" that may increase fuel efficiency and Not to be confused with hydrogen power fuel cel or other. That (Hydrogen power) can be done ... dare I say COULD be done if the PTB would endorse it. Years ago a man named Bob Lazar won the hydrogen powered car contest in his slightly modified corvette http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkVjONutBQ0 . Since then he has been trying to bring his system (which is extremely safe... much more so than gasoline) to market encountering a nearly impenetrable gauntlet of obstacles in the process. The PTB don't want us off gasoline.

Lazar uses solar cells and a device powered by home water pressure to safely produce and store pure hydrogen in tanks filled with nickel metal hydrides. Hydrogen binds with the metal hydrides storing it safely and at at low pressure. This is the key... safe high energy density storage. Only caveat ... It take a long time to make enough hydrogen to run an internal combustion vehicle on pure hydrogen. I want one of these systems: http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/ for my Yaris... and I bought it with that in mind (won't work with high compression ratio engines ie diesels ).

swidd · 09-01-2010, 11:44 AM

If someone from this site installs it, posts a positive review... then I'll just excuse them for being paid pundits.

07-27-2010, 10:45 PM	#1
marcus toyota View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Blazed Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 3,637	yaris over 60mpg wiith xynergy......... this might be a repost but interesting but dont know how legit this is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qNBO...eature=related

08-04-2010, 11:11 AM	#3
daf62757 Nothing beats a Toyota! View User's Garage Drives: 2013 Yaris 5 dr liftback Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 564	I see a lot of tubes......but I don't see them going anywhere. If this stuff worked, you would see it sell for $1K or more. __________________ Big Dave Indianapolis, IN Synthetic Oil....its in my car.....for at least 10,000 miles!

08-04-2010, 05:37 PM	#4
1NZYaris1 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,566	Actually this is one of the better systems , or set ups i have seen . Yes it works , but to the degree that they state in the Vid . i wouldn't think so . the reason you dont see it on OEM cars is because this system is way too Volitile and has the tendancy to explode if not monitored and tuned properly . i know this from experiance This system is very similar to the Hydrogen cell cars and you dont see them because they are too volitile at the moment . __________________ http://www.microimageonline.com/forums/index.php

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07-28-2010, 01:28 AM	#2
firemachine69 School'er of hard knocks Drives: Silver Yaris 4dr. HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sudbury, On Posts: 556	I believe the term we use is "snake oil"... Ask yourself this... If all it took was a magic elixir to boost all the manufacturers' MPG ratings, then why aren't they using it?

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08-14-2010, 11:34 AM	#6
nmgolfer Drives: Barcelona Red '09 Sedan Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Mexico Posts: 47	This device is NOT a way to run your car on water. This device is an on the fly "Brown's gas" or HHO generator that feeds a small amount of pure hydrogen into the intake. The idea is that by adding a small amount of pure hydrogen gas to the intake engine efficiency can be significantly improved with the resultant savings far offsetting the electricity needed to crack the water (separate the hydrogen molecules) in the first place. The Pulse Code Module (PCM) hits the hydrogen cell (the part that separates water into hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis) with a tunable frequency (an AC voltage) which is found to increase the efficiency of the cracking process. The key is to find the resonant frequency at which hydrogen production is maximized and thats no easy trick though an inventor (Stanley Meyer) in the midwest is said to have done it. I've been following these garage home-brew experimenters for a couple of years now and there may very well be something to it. One guy in particular has taken a methodical approach to his development process. He goes by the name zerofossilfuel and he has lots of videos documenting his research and results: http://www.youtube.com/user/ZeroFossilFuel . Again this is a Brown's gas "additive" that may increase fuel efficiency and Not to be confused with hydrogen power fuel cel or other. That (Hydrogen power) can be done ... dare I say COULD be done if the PTB would endorse it. Years ago a man named Bob Lazar won the hydrogen powered car contest in his slightly modified corvette http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkVjONutBQ0 . Since then he has been trying to bring his system (which is extremely safe... much more so than gasoline) to market encountering a nearly impenetrable gauntlet of obstacles in the process. The PTB don't want us off gasoline. Lazar uses solar cells and a device powered by home water pressure to safely produce and store pure hydrogen in tanks filled with nickel metal hydrides. Hydrogen binds with the metal hydrides storing it safely and at at low pressure. This is the key... safe high energy density storage. Only caveat ... It take a long time to make enough hydrogen to run an internal combustion vehicle on pure hydrogen. I want one of these systems: http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/ for my Yaris... and I bought it with that in mind (won't work with high compression ratio engines ie diesels ).

09-01-2010, 11:44 AM	#7
swidd Drives: Yaris HB Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Central Alabama, GOD BLESS AMERICA Posts: 755	If someone from this site installs it, posts a positive review... then I'll just excuse them for being paid pundits.