I NEED Boost... Opinions puh-lease

[cdydjded]

After learning a bit about the necessary components and options available I've deemed this to be in my best interest:
1. Zage kit w/o turbo and oil pan
2. Emanage Blue AEM FIC is another option
3. Mistu 14b (and rebuild) or Garrett GT2554 Both these turbo use completely different turbine inlet & outlet patterns. If you have a manifold & downpipe made for the 14B it would not work for a GT2554 and vise versa.

Also, been wondering about a few things that I can't find clear cut answers on...
1. Will the stock fuel pump and injectors suffice at as much as 8 psi?
Fuel pump yes, injector no, see my dyno with stock injector & 1ZZ injectors
2. Is it crucial to have a custom exhaust setup prior to tuning, or can it wait til after? Obviously I'll need one to get the most out of any turbo setup, but is it vital to have during tuning to get an accurate tune?
You cannot & should not run the stock exhaust with a turbo kit, it is too small in diameter period
3. Is anyone else running an Emanage Blue successfully? Also, I'm open to suggestions on alternatives. Peterpoop
4. I'm really torn on turbos... The 14b will work and is so cheap, but spools up at 3k+ rpm (btw, this is a daily driver ONLY). For like $700 more I can get the GT2554 which spools up quicker and is a brand name. I really need opinions on this. My current plan is to grab a 14b and possibly upgrade to the GT2554 later, maybe when I decide to increase boost?
GT2554 would be the best option, another alternative is a T25/T28

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Originally Posted by Nexus1155

I tried to buy ZAGE without the turbo and oil pan, they would not seperate it, its a package deal. You can probably source everything else anyways.

You can get a 14b or you can get a GT25 from an SR20DET setup and save that $700+ you would spend and just get the GT25 rebuilt.

Didn't Racerfreak email them and get a $900 quote for the kit minus the turbo and pan? Although if you're saying that's a no go then I guess it doesn't matter. I don't wanna have to piece a kit together myself unless absolutely necessary. I also don't want their allegedly crappy turbo...

As for the GT25 rebuild, that's a sweet idea. I'll be looking into that.

Originally Posted by cdydjded

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3. Mistu 14b (and rebuild) or Garrett GT2554 Both these turbo use completely different turbine inlet & outlet patterns. If you have a manifold & downpipe made for the 14B it would not work for a GT2554 and vise versa.

1. Will the stock fuel pump and injectors suffice at as much as 8 psi?
Fuel pump yes, injector no, see my dyno with stock injector & 1ZZ injectors
2. Is it crucial to have a custom exhaust setup prior to tuning, or can it wait til after? Obviously I'll need one to get the most out of any turbo setup, but is it vital to have during tuning to get an accurate tune?
You cannot & should not run the stock exhaust with a turbo kit, it is too small in diameter period

I had no idea the inlet and outlet patterns were different, thanks for pointing that out... Now I need to figure out what pattern Zage's turbo is so I know what I'm dealing with.

As for injectors, would stock tC ones work, or are they too large? I could probably get those cheaper than 1ZZ injectors.

And exhaust... Would a catback exhaust make the cut, or should I go full out turbo-back exhaust?

[Nexus1155]

Last time I talked to ZAGE it was $888 plus shipping or something weird like that from their warehouse.

Chinese turbos are coming up in this world, so don't knock it until you try them, would you be surprised if you knew that OEM turbos came from China? such as Borg Worner? You just need to know who to go through and its not some crappy place with low quality control which ZAGE has hopefully upgraded from.

Yes, the manifold to turbo flange and what the turbo is is the big thing to look out for, turbos have a variety of flanges.

Ideally, it would be nice to have an exhaust that is straight pipe all the way back from the turbo the same diameter as the outlet, but you can probably make due with 2.5" like most people choose. Use high flow cats or no cats at all.

[Focus_Sh1ft]

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Originally Posted by Nexus1155

Last time I talked to ZAGE it was $888 plus shipping or something weird like that from their warehouse.
Wait, for the whole kit? That means shipping is ~ $1000???

Chinese turbos are coming up in this world, so don't knock it until you try them, would you be surprised if you knew that OEM turbos came from China? such as Borg Worner? You just need to know who to go through and its not some crappy place with low quality control which ZAGE has hopefully upgraded from.
The only reason I'm hesitant to use their turbo is from the stories I've read that involve unwelcome explosions lol. I'd rather get something I know will work. I guess even if it does blow, rebuilding it isn't the worst thing in the world...?

Yes, the manifold to turbo flange and what the turbo is is the big thing to look out for, turbos have a variety of flanges.
Nothing is ever easy. If my plan holds, I'll ask them for the flange size / inlet, outlet pattern / etc. etc.

[PETERPOOP]

Originally Posted by cdydjded

2. Is it crucial to have a custom exhaust setup prior to tuning, or can it wait til after? Obviously I'll need one to get the most out of any turbo setup, but is it vital to have during tuning to get an accurate tune?

3. Is anyone else running an Emanage Blue successfully? Also, I'm open to suggestions on alternatives. Peterpoop
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Well technically i am using the emanage ultimate. However, chinocharles ( you can talk to him at the forums on www.microimageonline.com ) is using the emanage blue successfully. Both have been tuned with success. However, like mentioned earlier, the AEM FiC could work aswell. Over on the microimage forums, a use named "Echo_hrs" sp? just bought an AEM FiC and will be having his blitz kit tuned with it eventually. So we can see if that will work aswell ( it should ).

Also, like stated, you should have a custom exhaust setup before your tune. Besides the obvious reasons, you also wouldn't want to pay to have them retune after you add your turbo back exhaust ( or whatever you decide with ).