From club Toyota re: 0W20 - Toyota Yaris Forums

MUSKOKA800 · 10-09-2009, 09:45 AM

Scanned from the fall/winter issue of club Toyota magazine.
Too bad they didn't specify which models specifically.

EDIT: my apologies to Tamago. An attempted reply to a previous post re: 0W20 would not accept the attachment.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 10-09-2009, 10:19 AM

0W20 IS now standard oil on most 2010 cars from toyota....

YAR1S · 10-09-2009, 10:33 AM

hmmmm so would It be wise to switch if I've been using 10w syn for the time since I've had my car....
lol?

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 10-09-2009, 10:43 AM

im sure 1stoyota will be chiming here soon....

talnlnky · 10-09-2009, 11:29 AM

hmmm switching from 5w30synth to 0w-20synth... wonder if i'll see much of a change. My last free oil change is coming up in the next 1500miles... Maybe i'll switch to 0-20 afterwards. Car will still be under warrantee for another 2-3 years/40,000 miles.... don't want any possible damage to occur.

yaris-me · 10-09-2009, 12:45 PM

It says it was tested on the engines. The oil will provide lubrication so long as it is there. We are talking about viscosity not inability to lubricate.

MUSKOKA800 · 10-09-2009, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talnlnky

hmmm switching from 5w30synth to 0w-20synth... wonder if i'll see much of a change. My last free oil change is coming up in the next 1500miles... Maybe i'll switch to 0-20 afterwards. Car will still be under warrantee for another 2-3 years/40,000 miles.... don't want any possible damage to occur.

Canadian dealers are charging about $20.00 more for a 0W20 change (compared to 5W30). Your free oil change may not include this 'premium' choice. Good Luck!

SilverGlow · 10-21-2009, 08:50 PM

A lot of people are nervous about putting 0w-20 oil in their Yaris, but there is no reason to be.

0w-20 has the same viscosity as 5w-20 at 212F (operating temperature of the engine). People see the 0w and think "ah...too thin", but in very cold temperatures 0w is thicker then very think 50 weight oil is at 212F, so of course the first start of the very cold morning will not prevent 0w from protecting the oil.

A Yaris that runs only on 20 weight will last no less as long as a Yaris that runs on 30 weight. Thinner means the oil circulates fast and up to the far reaches of a motor on cold morning first starts. And this is important because 90% of the total wear and tear of an engine happens before the motor warms up to full operational temperature (around 212F).

I have nearly 80,000 miles on my 2007 hatchback which only uses 0w-20 and it burns no oil, and pulls as no less strong as the day I bought it new. Another good think about 20 weight is that one can get 1% to 2% higher MPG over 30 weight, and over time this will add up to $150+ savings on gas.

Use 20w with complete confidence!

R2D2 · 10-22-2009, 08:23 AM

My Yaris has had nothing but 20wt and I agree with you. I can't recommend it for those with warranties though, because Toyota doesn't.

A gentlemen on BITOG put 0W-10 in a jeep and it did very well!

I'll be putting RLI 0W-20 in in a week or so. I'll get an analysis done in the spring and post it here if any are interested.

R2

*Astroman* · 10-22-2009, 02:11 PM

I've run the amsoil stuff and it worked great. Currently using a different weight right now though due to stuff I already had on hand.

1stToyota · 10-23-2009, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROCKLAND TOYOTA

0W20 IS now standard oil on most 2010 cars from toyota....

Your Yaris is a '07, mine is a '08

If I had a '10 Yaris, and service manuals and owner's manuals stated 0w20, I'd use 0w20 :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROCKLAND TOYOTA

im sure 1stoyota will be chiming here soon....

Yaris Hilton · 10-23-2009, 10:28 AM

I'll stick with the specified 5W-30 for my 2009. I'm not in an arctic region, and any benefits would be small.

1stToyota · 10-23-2009, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R2D2

My Yaris has had nothing but 20wt and I agree with you. I can't recommend it for those with warranties though, because Toyota doesn't.

A gentlemen on BITOG put 0W-10 in a jeep and it did very well!

I'll be putting RLI 0W-20 in in a week or so. I'll get an analysis done in the spring and post it here if any are interested.

R2

I'd be interested. Are you testing your 5w20, first, before you do a 0w20 comparison?
I'll be doing 2 UOAs on my next 2 oil changes [PP 5w30, then Pennz YB 5w30 to see how it compares]

Lafiro · 10-23-2009, 12:31 PM

I just changed from 5w30 to 5w20 (same brand: Royal Purple) a few hundred miles ago, and so far I have noticed a solid increase of 1-2MPG over average each tank.

Not only that but the engine starts and stop smoother to what I hear/feel each time.(or maybe thats because of a new serpentine belt??)

So whats better for us north east people this winter? 5w20 or 5w30? Or 0w-20? And then whats better for the spring/summer?

daf62757 · 10-23-2009, 04:29 PM

I have tried Mobil 0w30 and Pennzoil 2w20, both synthetic. Both work good....but I am really tempted to try 0w20.

R2D2 · 10-23-2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

I'd be interested. Are you testing your 5w20, first, before you do a 0w20 comparison?
I'll be doing 2 UOAs on my next 2 oil changes [PP 5w30, then Pennz YB 5w30 to see how it compares]

No I'm not going to test the 5W-20-I'm going to get a Dyson Analysis done on the RLI after 5k and see how it looks. Dr Haas has an analysis of the RLI 0W-20 from his Lamborgini posted on BITOG right now also if your interested.

R2

james21v · 10-26-2009, 09:44 AM

is it really that magzine.. but anyways the content and the pics are really facinating and what can say about it... great work.. and thanks for sharing...

10-09-2009, 10:19 AM	#2
ROCKLAND TOYOTA TRIM HUNTER View User's Garage Drives: 2007 BLAZIN BLUE YARIS 3 DR Join Date: May 2006 Location: ROCKLAND COUNTY NY Posts: 2,088	0W20 IS now standard oil on most 2010 cars from toyota.... __________________ http://rocklandtoyota.com/IFrame.aspx?iFrameID=2388 TOYOTA PARTS AT A DISCOUNT........

10-09-2009, 10:43 AM	#4
ROCKLAND TOYOTA TRIM HUNTER View User's Garage Drives: 2007 BLAZIN BLUE YARIS 3 DR Join Date: May 2006 Location: ROCKLAND COUNTY NY Posts: 2,088	im sure 1stoyota will be chiming here soon.... __________________ http://rocklandtoyota.com/IFrame.aspx?iFrameID=2388 TOYOTA PARTS AT A DISCOUNT........

10-09-2009, 11:29 AM	#5
talnlnky Audio Junky Drives: 08 liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Spokane, Wa Posts: 1,412	hmmm switching from 5w30synth to 0w-20synth... wonder if i'll see much of a change. My last free oil change is coming up in the next 1500miles... Maybe i'll switch to 0-20 afterwards. Car will still be under warrantee for another 2-3 years/40,000 miles.... don't want any possible damage to occur. __________________

10-21-2009, 08:50 PM	#8
SilverGlow Banned Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 189	0w-20 Oil A lot of people are nervous about putting 0w-20 oil in their Yaris, but there is no reason to be. 0w-20 has the same viscosity as 5w-20 at 212F (operating temperature of the engine). People see the 0w and think "ah...too thin", but in very cold temperatures 0w is thicker then very think 50 weight oil is at 212F, so of course the first start of the very cold morning will not prevent 0w from protecting the oil. A Yaris that runs only on 20 weight will last no less as long as a Yaris that runs on 30 weight. Thinner means the oil circulates fast and up to the far reaches of a motor on cold morning first starts. And this is important because 90% of the total wear and tear of an engine happens before the motor warms up to full operational temperature (around 212F). I have nearly 80,000 miles on my 2007 hatchback which only uses 0w-20 and it burns no oil, and pulls as no less strong as the day I bought it new. Another good think about 20 weight is that one can get 1% to 2% higher MPG over 30 weight, and over time this will add up to $150+ savings on gas. Use 20w with complete confidence!

10-22-2009, 08:23 AM	#9
R2D2 Crazy Oil Sniffer Drives: MM 09 Yaris 5 Dr LB "Click" Join Date: May 2009 Location: ME Posts: 498	My Yaris has had nothing but 20wt and I agree with you. I can't recommend it for those with warranties though, because Toyota doesn't. A gentlemen on BITOG put 0W-10 in a jeep and it did very well! I'll be putting RLI 0W-20 in in a week or so. I'll get an analysis done in the spring and post it here if any are interested. R2 __________________ "The howl was the sound of God’s casting pot, the morphing of my cells into shape, the forming of oceans out of molten premordial plasma. And I could feel it. I could cry for it. I could cry with it." -The Fitful One

10-09-2009, 12:45 PM	#6
yaris-me Learn to Relax Drives: 2007, Meteorite, LB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 2,070	It says it was tested on the engines. The oil will provide lubrication so long as it is there. We are talking about viscosity not inability to lubricate.

10-22-2009, 02:11 PM	#10
Astroman Modded Moderator View User's Garage Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris, 71 Galaxie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wenatchee, WA Posts: 3,670	I've run the amsoil stuff and it worked great. Currently using a different weight right now though due to stuff I already had on hand. __________________ Please visit my online store for computer stuff and Official Yarisworld decals!

10-23-2009, 10:28 AM	#12
Yaris Hilton Half a Bubble Off Plumb Drives: 2009 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,593	I'll stick with the specified 5W-30 for my 2009. I'm not in an arctic region, and any benefits would be small.

10-23-2009, 12:31 PM	#14
Lafiro Drives: 06 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 694	I just changed from 5w30 to 5w20 (same brand: Royal Purple) a few hundred miles ago, and so far I have noticed a solid increase of 1-2MPG over average each tank. Not only that but the engine starts and stop smoother to what I hear/feel each time.(or maybe thats because of a new serpentine belt??) So whats better for us north east people this winter? 5w20 or 5w30? Or 0w-20? And then whats better for the spring/summer?

10-23-2009, 04:29 PM	#15
daf62757 Nothing beats a Toyota! View User's Garage Drives: 2013 Yaris 5 dr liftback Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 564	I have tried Mobil 0w30 and Pennzoil 2w20, both synthetic. Both work good....but I am really tempted to try 0w20. __________________ Big Dave Indianapolis, IN Synthetic Oil....its in my car.....for at least 10,000 miles!

10-26-2009, 09:44 AM	#17
james21v I've made a post! Drives: honda accord Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: folsom Posts: 1	is it really that magzine.. but anyways the content and the pics are really facinating and what can say about it... great work.. and thanks for sharing... __________________ James Cohiba cigars

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