TRD Springs Vs Tanabe DF210...The Title Bout - Toyota Yaris Forums

detroiter · 04-29-2009, 09:03 PM

There's alot of threads that have SOME info on these springs, I feel more so there is information out there on the DF210's then for the TRD springs. I'd like this thread to have user reviews of each spring AND hard, solid information on them. That way when people search for a definitive thread to choose between the two, because I feel these two springs are choices alot of people decide upon but have a hard time choosing, they will have a one stop shop to help them. It also seems alot of people shy away from the TRD springs and go Tanabe DF210, any particular reason aside from being a 1/2" lower?

Please share your reviews, owner feedback, why you choose what you did and are you happy with your decision. Even add in pictures such as ground level photos so that people can get a good idea of what they are getting into, pictures of the wheel gaps, etc.

Pitt Yaris · 04-29-2009, 09:08 PM

I'm a noob on suspension and springs, but I would thing trd vs nf210 would be a better battle.

Pitt Yaris · 04-29-2009, 09:19 PM

If rubbing weren't a problem, I think df210's would be had by over 90% of posters that currently own lowering springs.

frownonfun · 04-29-2009, 09:24 PM

i originally intended to buy the TRD springs. mainly because i was worried about how much of a drop the DF210's were gonna give. but after talking with cali yaris from micro-image i eventually settled on buying the tanabe springs and i am really glad i did. personally i wish the drop was even a little lower. but i'm still waiting for them to settle a little so it might end up being just perfect. they are also quite a bit cheaper like chinocharles said.

Tamago · 04-29-2009, 09:28 PM

DF210's acquire their low stance by lowering their spring rate. awful if you actually DRIVE your car.

how about progress?

cali yaris · 04-29-2009, 09:32 PM

DF210's are +15% spring rate, actually. At least get the facts straight.

I did several track days on the DF210's - not bad at all.

progress:
DROP: 1.7" front, 1.8" rear
RATE: 110 lbs. front, 130 lbs. rear

And I have new spring from China to try out 1.5" drop and 4k front / 3.1k rear -- could be good.

frownonfun · 04-29-2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

DF210's acquire their low stance by lowering their spring rate. awful if you actually DRIVE your car.

how about progress?

mines a daily driver and i don't think it's all that bad. rougher than it was, no doubt, but not unbearable or anything.

cali yaris · 04-29-2009, 09:33 PM

also H & R which don't publish their rate, but in general I like their products - anyone tried them?

detroiter · 04-29-2009, 09:33 PM

lets hear the pros and cons of each spring, good and bad experiences as well

frownonfun · 04-29-2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frownonfun

i originally intended to buy the TRD springs. mainly because i was worried about how much of a drop the DF210's were gonna give. but after talking with cali yaris from micro-image i eventually settled on buying the tanabe springs and i am really glad i did. personally i wish the drop was even a little lower. but i'm still waiting for them to settle a little so it might end up being just perfect. they are also quite a bit cheaper like chinocharles said.

Tamago · 04-29-2009, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

DF210's are +15% spring rate, actually. At least get the facts straight.

I did several track days on the DF210's - not bad at all.

progress:
DROP: 1.7" front, 1.8" rear
RATE: 110 lbs. front, 130 lbs. rear

And I have new spring from China to try out 1.5" drop and 4k front / 3.1k rear -- could be good.

sorry, i should have specified, i did not mean that the rates are lower than stock, i mean that they're lower than they should be, considering the amount of drop they offer.

detroiter · 04-30-2009, 01:02 AM

Aside from the cost, is the TRD springs not as "race" competitive as the DF springs? Obviously a product with the name Toyota on it is going to be more expensive then other brands but aside from the extra cost, there has to be some advantage of the TRD's as compared to the Tanabes.

cali yaris · 04-30-2009, 01:25 AM

Quote:

there has to be some advantage of the TRD's as compared to the Tanabes.

Why?

I suppose there is because of the milder drop and some rubbing issues with wheel and tire combinations. In terms of ride and responsiveness, there is no advantage to the TRD springs.

cali yaris · 04-30-2009, 01:48 AM

Quote:

i did not mean that the rates are lower than stock, i mean that they're lower than they should be, considering the amount of drop they offer.

ah got it, I would tend to agree with that, but I also prefer a stiffer ride over stock. Tanabe designed the springs that way because 15% offsets the amount they lower the car (the NF210's, with a milder drop are 5% over stock). So you get a lowered car with about the same ride quality. In my experience, the ride is actually just a little bit stiffer than stock.

CtrlAltDefeat · 04-30-2009, 06:26 AM

I like how my DFs ride, and the lower center of gravity makes it handle much better then stock. A major issue, however, is speed bumps on the DFs. With just myself and another in the car, I have to creep over speed bumps. I think my next upgrade will either be higher or adjustable.

33OH · 04-30-2009, 08:17 AM

I love my DF210's. Really glad I got them. They ride nice, handle better than stock, drop looks awesome.

I see that alot of people who buy TRD springs get rid of them for DF210's later on for a lower drop.

CtrlAltDefeat · 04-30-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camelll

I have trd struts, shocks, springs and sway bar. I love the drop and the ride quality. The 2nd pic is before the drop and the ground effects.

looks nice, what size are your wheels and tires?

detroiter · 04-30-2009, 11:32 AM

Another question to help clear some things up is if someone is running stock rim and tire size, why would they rub with the DF springs? I'd imagine that Tanabe wouldn't build a spring they know would purposely rub on a stock setup for the car, even with a full car load of luggage or people. And even if so, I'd imagine as well if the springs were paired up with a nice set of performance based shocks/struts, there would not be a problem at all.

04-29-2009, 09:03 PM	#1
detroiter Drives: 2008 Polar White LB Auto Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,238	TRD Springs Vs Tanabe DF210...The Title Bout There's alot of threads that have SOME info on these springs, I feel more so there is information out there on the DF210's then for the TRD springs. I'd like this thread to have user reviews of each spring AND hard, solid information on them. That way when people search for a definitive thread to choose between the two, because I feel these two springs are choices alot of people decide upon but have a hard time choosing, they will have a one stop shop to help them. It also seems alot of people shy away from the TRD springs and go Tanabe DF210, any particular reason aside from being a 1/2" lower? Please share your reviews, owner feedback, why you choose what you did and are you happy with your decision. Even add in pictures such as ground level photos so that people can get a good idea of what they are getting into, pictures of the wheel gaps, etc.

04-29-2009, 09:32 PM	#6
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	DF210's are +15% spring rate, actually. At least get the facts straight. I did several track days on the DF210's - not bad at all. progress: DROP: 1.7" front, 1.8" rear RATE: 110 lbs. front, 130 lbs. rear And I have new spring from China to try out 1.5" drop and 4k front / 3.1k rear -- could be good. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

04-29-2009, 09:33 PM	#8
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	also H & R which don't publish their rate, but in general I like their products - anyone tried them? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

04-30-2009, 06:26 AM	#15
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	I like how my DFs ride, and the lower center of gravity makes it handle much better then stock. A major issue, however, is speed bumps on the DFs. With just myself and another in the car, I have to creep over speed bumps. I think my next upgrade will either be higher or adjustable. __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell

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04-29-2009, 09:08 PM	#2
Pitt Yaris Drives: Flint Mica Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 475	I'm a noob on suspension and springs, but I would thing trd vs nf210 would be a better battle.

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04-29-2009, 09:24 PM	#4
frownonfun View User's Garage Drives: 09 Yaris HB, 08 SR5 Tundra Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RGV, Texas Posts: 1,086	i originally intended to buy the TRD springs. mainly because i was worried about how much of a drop the DF210's were gonna give. but after talking with cali yaris from micro-image i eventually settled on buying the tanabe springs and i am really glad i did. personally i wish the drop was even a little lower. but i'm still waiting for them to settle a little so it might end up being just perfect. they are also quite a bit cheaper like chinocharles said.

04-30-2009, 01:02 AM	#12
detroiter Drives: 2008 Polar White LB Auto Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,238	Aside from the cost, is the TRD springs not as "race" competitive as the DF springs? Obviously a product with the name Toyota on it is going to be more expensive then other brands but aside from the extra cost, there has to be some advantage of the TRD's as compared to the Tanabes.

04-30-2009, 08:17 AM	#16
33OH Drives: '08 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dover, Ohio Posts: 7,606	I love my DF210's. Really glad I got them. They ride nice, handle better than stock, drop looks awesome. I see that alot of people who buy TRD springs get rid of them for DF210's later on for a lower drop.

04-30-2009, 11:32 AM	#18
detroiter Drives: 2008 Polar White LB Auto Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,238	Another question to help clear some things up is if someone is running stock rim and tire size, why would they rub with the DF springs? I'd imagine that Tanabe wouldn't build a spring they know would purposely rub on a stock setup for the car, even with a full car load of luggage or people. And even if so, I'd imagine as well if the springs were paired up with a nice set of performance based shocks/struts, there would not be a problem at all.