Rear Sway Bar?

[djct_watt]

Excessive toe out on an overloaded tire at a high roll angle = excessive rotation = oversteer.

[Ryu]

I have installed UR 19mm few month ago, my thought on this is that it will help your car to oversteer since the factory car is more on understeer side, and it will also help your car to be more stable under cross wind situation which I found much safer in windy weather.

[sickpuppy1]

The oversteer must be a HB/LB thing. On a sedan, with a 19 I get no hint of oversteer so far and I press it hard at times......Maybe not roadrace hard, but I do like to go for it at times...

[djct_watt]

Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

The oversteer must be a HB/LB thing. On a sedan, with a 19 I get no hint of oversteer so far and I press it hard at times......Maybe not roadrace hard, but I do like to go for it at times...

This is a FWD car. . . oversteer does not happen easily. It should not just happen from hard driving, but specifically when you push the car beyond the limit. But again, oversteer is a symptom of bad driving (either entering a corner too hot or a bad line). Despite all the Fast and Retarded Tokyo Drift antics, the fastest path through a corner is NOT sideways.

[sickpuppy1]

I hear ya. Although not sure if they did it to be fastest through the corner, just the thrill and the skill of drifting. Cause for sure its not the fastest way, not even close.

[SimTronik]

I'M an everyday driver but i like to push the car in some corners... whats the pros and cons of 19mm vs 23mm ?

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by djct_watt

Excessive toe out on an overloaded tire at a high roll angle = excessive rotation = oversteer.

So now you're going to the extreme. Might as well throw in bald tires into that mix then.

Might as well compare that to a RWD Yaris, on 195s, with 2000 hp.

Or lets just have a semi t-bone the rear quarter panel.

Thats some oversteer right there.

[djct_watt]

Originally Posted by ddongbap

So now you're going to the extreme. Might as well throw in bald tires into that mix then.

Might as well compare that to a RWD Yaris, on 195s, with 2000 hp.

Or lets just have a semi t-bone the rear quarter panel.

Thats some oversteer right there.

I dont understand your point...

This is exactly what the bar does, "Yo." It does little in roll reduction (on its own) and only helps to increase toe with increased roll, which prematurely overloads the tire, which creates excessive rotation, which can lead to oversteer.