Yaris Vs ECHO Quality - Toyota Yaris Forums

bronsin · 12-10-2008, 10:50 AM

My ECHO is eight years old now and has not given me a single problem. However, if I do buy a new car one of these days it would probably be a Yaris. But before I do I would like to know: Does the Yaris appear to be as reliable a car as the ECHO has been?

SIPNGAS · 12-10-2008, 10:53 AM

I've only had mine a little over a year...with no problems but I will say the Yaris is MUCH better looking than the Echo...lol

PetersRedYaris · 12-10-2008, 11:07 AM

There are few differences beside cosmetics, it's actually the same engine and transmission, though the engine management is different. I would say the Yaris will make you just as happy as your Echo has...

bronsin · 12-10-2008, 11:13 AM

Better looking maybe...but also heavier!

bronsin · 12-10-2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PetersRedYaris

There are few differences beside cosmetics, it's actually the same engine and transmission, though the engine management is different. I would say the Yaris will make you just as happy as your Echo has...

Whats different with the engine management?

IllusionX · 12-10-2008, 11:41 AM

Actually... the yaris has a different transmission... it SHOULD be only a shorter final gear, but i have not had the chance to look deeper into this.

i've had my echo for 2 years 46k, and my yaris for a little over 2 years and 54k now. Both served me very well with out any major problems.

bronsin: let me tell you what's different....

1) now has real SEATS.. not a park bench like the echo.
2) it's a much quieter ride than the echo
3) if you are driving standard, 1st and 2nd gear is much smoother...
4) 2009 now all come with a tach (am i wrong?)
5) it's a 5 seater
6) drive by wire... there's no more throttle cable
7) no more roof antenna (for the sedan)
8) Electric power steering. It's actually full electric, so there's no more PS fluid to change anymore.
9) the yaris uses Iridium spark plugs (some echo used them, but most had standard copper plugs)

i think that's all i can tell you off the top of my head. But even if the echo is 8 years old.. i guess you still can keep it for at least 5-6 years more.. ?

landrym28 · 12-10-2008, 01:09 PM

I've had my Yaris for 2 and a half years after driving an Echo for 3 years. I've never had any problems with mine.

elmo · 12-10-2008, 01:17 PM

my wife has a 2001 echo 85,000 miles on it she loves the car, as do i
i have a 2008 yaris LB 28,000 I love the car she does 2

both are great cars i have had 0 problems with mine and hers runs as strong today as the day it was new what i am sayin is a yaris is nothing more than an upgraded echo IMHO

tetzyamis · 12-10-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IllusionX

4) 2009 now all come with a tach (am i wrong?)
8) Electric power steering. It's actually full electric, so there's no more PS fluid to change anymore.

4) My 2009 LB doesn't have tach.
8) I really like this upgrade :)

PetersRedYaris · 12-10-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bronsin

Whats different with the engine management?

It's just a newer computer that has learning capabilities that adjust to your driving style. Some say this is worse because it's harder to tune should you want to add forced induction (turbo).

PetersRedYaris · 12-10-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IllusionX

Actually... the yaris has a different transmission... it SHOULD be only a shorter final gear, but i have not had the chance to look deeper into this.

I think it is the same but has different gear ratios. I could be wrong. Either way, both are reliable...

bronsin · 12-10-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PetersRedYaris

It's just a newer computer that has learning capabilities that adjust to your driving style. Some say this is worse because it's harder to tune should you want to add forced induction (turbo).

I think thats the "i" in "VTTi" (or whatever ever the heck the acronym is) for "intelligent". Varible valve timing with intelligence? So the ECHO has it too, or at least an older version of it. But no turbo for me in any case.

stuffy · 12-11-2008, 12:00 AM

i've had my yaris for just over 3 years now 65,000 km with no problems
(other than the plastic clip holding the side markers in breaking)

*MAD DOG* · 12-11-2008, 03:39 AM

I had an ECHO and now I have a Yaris.

The road noise is significantly less in a Yaris.

The quality is a little higher in a Yaris and you get more options and hidey holes.

The Yaris is heavier than the ECHO.

The Yaris holds the road better.

The ECHO uses less gas as it's lighter.

The Yaris seats are more comfortable and easier to fold down and fit stuff in.

The only thing i miss about the ECHO is that it had little hooks in the hatch to hold shopping bags. The Yaris does not.

If you buy a Yaris you won't be disappointed.

voodoo22 · 12-11-2008, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bronsin

My ECHO is eight years old now and has not given me a single problem. However, if I do buy a new car one of these days it would probably be a Yaris. But before I do I would like to know: Does the Yaris appear to be as reliable a car as the ECHO has been?

Even though Toyota admits themselves that they have let quality slip a bit in recent years (ie The Tundra), I think you'll find the Yaris is very comparable to the Echo in quality and in many ways is a little more upscale.

You probably will not do as well on gas, because as stated prior the Yaris is a little heavier.

Depending on how much money you're looking to spend you might want to hold off until next year when cars like the Honda Insight II are coming out. The Toyota iQ is also supposed to be out, but it seems like this may be up in the air now for NA. Regardless, VW, Honda & even Hyundai are poised to release more fuel efficient vehicles next year aimed at the consumer who cannot or chooses not to spend over 20 grand on a vehicle.

bronsin · 12-11-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by voodoo22

Depending on how much money you're looking to spend you might want to hold off until next year when cars like the Honda Insight II are coming out. The Toyota iQ is also supposed to be out, but it seems like this may be up in the air now for NA. Regardless, VW, Honda & even Hyundai are poised to release more fuel efficient vehicles next year aimed at the consumer who cannot or chooses not to spend over 20 grand on a vehicle.

Heard about the iQ but nver imagined we would see it or anything like it here in the US.

Now gas is sub $2/gallon (maybe sub $1!) so its even less likely.

Pretty soon everyone will be buying F150s and eight cylinder SUVs again saving the US car industry.

Then gas will hit $5/gallon again. Repeat over and over.

I wish more people would settle for a Yaris!

Love buying a Made In Japan car!

12-10-2008, 10:50 AM	#1
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,790	Yaris Vs ECHO Quality My ECHO is eight years old now and has not given me a single problem. However, if I do buy a new car one of these days it would probably be a Yaris. But before I do I would like to know: Does the Yaris appear to be as reliable a car as the ECHO has been?

12-10-2008, 10:53 AM	#2
SIPNGAS I LOVE my Yaris! View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Polar White LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southeast Wisconsin Posts: 5,164	I've only had mine a little over a year...with no problems but I will say the Yaris is MUCH better looking than the Echo...lol __________________ We don't see things as THEY are...we see them as WE are. Lisa aka *SIPNGAS*

12-10-2008, 01:09 PM	#7
landrym28 3,300+ at one point.. >:( View User's Garage Drives: 2010 Hatchback RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saint John, NB, Canada Posts: 542	I've had my Yaris for 2 and a half years after driving an Echo for 3 years. I've never had any problems with mine. __________________ Remember, you're unique.....just like everybody else.

12-11-2008, 03:39 AM	#14
MAD DOG Drives: 2011 Toyota Camry Hybrid Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 6,412	I had an ECHO and now I have a Yaris. The road noise is significantly less in a Yaris. The quality is a little higher in a Yaris and you get more options and hidey holes. The Yaris is heavier than the ECHO. The Yaris holds the road better. The ECHO uses less gas as it's lighter. The Yaris seats are more comfortable and easier to fold down and fit stuff in. The only thing i miss about the ECHO is that it had little hooks in the hatch to hold shopping bags. The Yaris does not. If you buy a Yaris you won't be disappointed. __________________ "Manual labour is not for me. In fact i'm not even sure non manual work is either." -Anthony Linton Check out ▬▬► I like I like ◄▬▬ for more fun on Facebook

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PetersRedYaris View User's Garage Drives: 2005 Scion xB Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Black Hills of South Dakota Posts: 1,059	There are few differences beside cosmetics, it's actually the same engine and transmission, though the engine management is different. I would say the Yaris will make you just as happy as your Echo has...

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bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,790	Better looking maybe...but also heavier!

12-10-2008, 11:41 AM	#6
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	Actually... the yaris has a different transmission... it SHOULD be only a shorter final gear, but i have not had the chance to look deeper into this. i've had my echo for 2 years 46k, and my yaris for a little over 2 years and 54k now. Both served me very well with out any major problems. bronsin: let me tell you what's different.... 1) now has real SEATS.. not a park bench like the echo. 2) it's a much quieter ride than the echo 3) if you are driving standard, 1st and 2nd gear is much smoother... 4) 2009 now all come with a tach (am i wrong?) 5) it's a 5 seater 6) drive by wire... there's no more throttle cable 7) no more roof antenna (for the sedan) 8) Electric power steering. It's actually full electric, so there's no more PS fluid to change anymore. 9) the yaris uses Iridium spark plugs (some echo used them, but most had standard copper plugs) i think that's all i can tell you off the top of my head. But even if the echo is 8 years old.. i guess you still can keep it for at least 5-6 years more.. ?

12-10-2008, 01:17 PM	#8
elmo WFO Drives: 2008 hb Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: E. Tennessee Posts: 190	my wife has a 2001 echo 85,000 miles on it she loves the car, as do i i have a 2008 yaris LB 28,000 I love the car she does 2 both are great cars i have had 0 problems with mine and hers runs as strong today as the day it was new what i am sayin is a yaris is nothing more than an upgraded echo IMHO

12-11-2008, 12:00 AM	#13
stuffy Drives: 06 yaris 5-dr le man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 699	i've had my yaris for just over 3 years now 65,000 km with no problems (other than the plastic clip holding the side markers in breaking)