Adjusting rear camber??

[yarisugi]

Originally Posted by Tamago

buy camber bolts.

Are the camber bolts for the front or rear, or both? That's the one on Garm's website?
Is it possible to do rear camber like this? (bad example pic, but you get the picture)

[PHXDEMON]

Originally Posted by yarisugi

Are the camber bolts for the front or rear, or both? That's the one on Garm's website?
Is it possible to do rear camber like this? (bad example pic, but you get the picture)

I believe they just work for the front.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by PHXDEMON

I think adding some toe out on the rear may help but I don't want to prematurely wear the tires.

don't add toe out. as previously discussed, this is a mod to be done for those of us who race almost more than we street-drive. not a good thing to do.

[Loren]

Geez, somebody move this thread to "cosmetic mods" already.

[kngrsll]

Originally Posted by Loren

Geez, somebody move this thread to "cosmetic mods" already.

LOL

at least they admit they want big brakes for the look

[Penguin Garage]

PHX, some camber in the rear should help alot.

as Tamago said I wouldn't do toe out specifically, and I seriously wouldn't suggest more than -2.0 rear camber.

[cali yaris]

The camber bolts are for the front only, to answer the question. Rear camber uses shims (or washers with the Penguin Garage rear hub spacers).

[bribri]

If you put a washer under each lower bolt wont this also adjust the toe to a little out because the front bolt is higher then the rear?
Would you need more negative camber for track with stock springs and a rear sway bar then stiffer springs all around because the body rolls more? How much camber is too much?

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by bribri

If you put a washer under each lower bolt wont this also adjust the toe to a little out because the front bolt is higher then the rear?

because the rear suspension is trailing arm, we cannot address this question unless we know how low you've dropped your car. are you at stock height? PLEASE REMEMBER that we are suggesting this mod in conjunction with a trip to the alignment rack to guarantee your specific drop/application doesn't do something unsafe with the camber washers in place!

Would you need more negative camber for track with stock springs and a rear sway bar then stiffer springs all around because the body rolls more?

that's debatable. if you're on stock springs, what tires are you on? if you're tracking your car, the single BEST mod you can do to a stock yaris is better tires. adding rear camber is kind of cart-before-horse if the rest of your car is stock IMO

How much camber is too much?

again, up for debate. if you cannot get rid of most of the built-in toe issues, adding a large amount of rear camber will just help shorten the lifespan of your tires. i personally run around 1.6deg of rear camber, no affect on tire wear (i also have eliminated most of the toe-in from the factory.)

[bribri]

I'm on stock steel 14 inch wheels. Tires are 185/60-14 Bridgstone potenza 960 pole position (all season). I also added a 23mmultra racing sway bar. I figure since the tires feel as if they are rolling before they emit a screaching sound that the tread is not in full contact with the road. Pressure is 38 all around and there is still body roll in the corner (stock springs). I don't want a stiffer ride or to spend more then is necessary to get te car handling great at its limits. Im willing to make allignment adjustments for track and street.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by bribri

I'm on stock steel 14 inch wheels. Tires are 185/60-14 Bridgstone potenza 960 pole position (all season). I also added a 23mmultra racing sway bar. I figure since the tires feel as if they are rolling before they emit a screaching sound that the tread is not in full contact with the road. Pressure is 38 all around and there is still body roll in the corner (stock springs). I don't want a stiffer ride or to spend more then is necessary to get te car handling great at its limits. Im willing to make allignment adjustments for track and street.

how much camber are you running up front?

[bribri]

2.2 up frontand 2.4 in the rear. The washers are a little thick. I have 1.5mm washersto replace the thicker ones. Your right abouut the back having too much camber. The outside of the tires only see asphalt during hard corners . I have not measured rear toe but with the thick washers the car rotates nicely without feeling unstable. Front toe is close to 0.

[rob323]

I know the design of the rear torsion beam of the Yaris is a bit different to my Echo in that it has some passive toe change geometry or something built in to it, but has anyone checked what happens to the rear toe when the wheels travels through their stroke?

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by rob323

I know the design of the rear torsion beam of the Yaris is a bit different to my Echo in that it has some passive toe change geometry or something built in to it, but has anyone checked what happens to the rear toe when the wheels travels through their stroke?

negative camber turns into toe-in apon compression.

[rob323]

That's a bummer, nice and safe from Toyota's point of view I guess.

[Penguin Garage]

We've been hinting at this for a few weeks now.

We've got the Camber Shims ready for shipping.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19450

[regal]

What does this do to the cars handling?

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by regal

What does this do to the cars handling?

did you not install your set yet?