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Old 11-08-2008, 08:16 PM   #1
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So I voted for Obama like everyone else, then I find out the Democrats are going to make it tough to buy new guns and may nix the CCW's

So to all of those out there with guns, what do you carry or just like to shoot

Just picked this up today, did a little reseach on the best CCW's, and this one topped the list
S&W 638, I opted for the "bodygaurd" and all that means is it is a spurless hammer
shoots +P 38 specials, nice and light, easy to conseal



I also have a S&W SC9 - basicly a sub compact 9mm, 7 round mag
I will take some pix here soon
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:20 PM   #2
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Hilary may have toyed with that idea, but Obama knows better. He got alot of party-jumpers, and is wise enough to NOT play with something that has had a 100% success rate where it's been implemented (i.e. lower crime rate in shall-carry states). I'm also dubious of him re-implementing the "assault weapons ban", as once again, statistics showed no measurable effects directly from it.


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The right to carry should be up to the individual, NOT the government, and NOT someone to tell others they are not permitted to protect themselves and their families.

Unlike our socialist country up here... Where guns are perfectly acceptable to keep money safe, but considered dis-functional to dare ever think of using a firearm to protect one's like...
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:24 PM   #3
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not to open a can of worms , but why do you need CCW?
are the States that dangerous?
yeah it is.... I was robbed at run point twice this year, and got cracked over the head with a 45 one of those times
my little brother was almost beaten to death a few weeks back because : he looked like someone else"

I got my CCW permit not to long after all that

I like the revolver more since it is just "pont and shoot" as opposed to my semi-auto that you need to rack the slide to put one in the hole
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:25 PM   #4
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Very few people, and not all states are in compliance with federal CCW mandates.

It's a heavy burden for an individual, but one that should be left up to the individual.
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:26 PM   #5
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is everyone packing in the States?
hell yeah, we have the right to bear arms

my brother, my dad, both of my wife's aunts, 1/2 the people I work with at Autozone (we do not carry at work though)

and more than 1/2 the ppl I know carry, some legally, some not
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:28 PM   #6
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Well I can see the attempted ban come back...... I bet they ban high capacity mags again.... ammunition has gone crazy with prices too and that's going to get worse too.

I like the 5 shot S&W snub noses..... no malfuncions and just the right amount of power. I just got my wife a Kel-Tec PF9 this year which is very small and light and got rid of a Snub nose 357 for that. I have a preference for my Glock 23 for carry but my favorite is my Colt Gold Cup 45
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is everyone packing in the States?
YUP!!! Everyone is. Keeps things interesting
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Very few people, and not all states are in compliance with federal CCW mandates.

It's a heavy burden for an individual, but one that should be left up to the individual.
any citizen of Ohio can carry a firearm in plain sight on his/her person with out a permit
we only need permits to conceal, and our permit has resiprocity in Michigan as well
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:33 PM   #9
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Well I can see the attempted ban come back...... I bet they ban high capacity mags again.... ammunition has gone crazy with prices too and that's going to get worse too.

I like the 5 shot S&W snub noses..... no malfuncions and just the right amount of power. I just got my wife a Kel-Tec PF9 this year which is very small and light and got rid of a Snub nose 357 for that. I have a preference for my Glock 23 for carry but my favorite is my Colt Gold Cup 45
yeah those +P 38 special hollow points pack a punch

I paid $20 for 100 rounds of 9mm on Tuesday, and today I paid $15 for 50 rounds of 38 specials

I think I am going to find someplace online that sells ammo cheep and nab 1000 rounds of each
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:33 PM   #10
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yeah it is.... I was robbed at run point twice this year, and got cracked over the head with a 45 one of those times
my little brother was almost beaten to death a few weeks back because : he looked like someone else
Rather than buy a gun I would move away from there so fast that the moving truck would lay rubber. Seriously. Life is just too short.
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damn , nothing really changed from the Wild wild west times lol. but i guess it's part of the American culture, not that there is anything wrong with culture.

Its just weird that in Canada everyone is pretty "happy" and not "dangerous" while a bit south people just want to blow each other away.

i suspect that the larger population has something to do with it , although it's just my opinon
we do not want to blow each other away, I hope I NEVER have to use my guns... but I am prepared to if, and only if, I NEED to
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Very few people, and not all states are in compliance with federal CCW mandates.

It's a heavy burden for an individual, but one that should be left up to the individual.
I agree...this should be left to the individual along with training...

not all places in the states are like this and not everyone feels the need to carry a gun. The fact is, criminals will ALWAYS have access to firearms and I like knowing that someone on my side might be carrying as well.

I learned how to shoot when I was a kid and still keep up with that skill, however, unless something happens to me personally, I won't carry/own one.

I just don't feel the need...yet.
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so anyone can get a gun legally without a permit?? why?? so a psycho can get a gun?

thats just not logical
not anyone, you do need to pass an FBI background check, but besides that, anyone can
we do not even have to register our guns here in Ohio, where as you do in Michigan
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yeah it is.... I was robbed at run point twice this year, and got cracked over the head with a 45 one of those times
my little brother was almost beaten to death a few weeks back because : he looked like someone else"

I got my CCW permit not to long after all that

I like the revolver more since it is just "pont and shoot" as opposed to my semi-auto that you need to rack the slide to put one in the hole
That's why I carry in condition 1
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I agree...this should be left to the individual along with training...

not all places in the states are like this and not everyone feels the need to carry a gun. The fact is, criminals will ALWAYS have access to firearms and I like knowing that someone on my side might be carrying as well.

I learned how to shoot when I was a kid and still keep up with that skill, however, unless something happens to me personally, I won't carry/own one.

I just don't feel the need...yet.
One of the main reasons I bought the revolver is so my wife can shoot, the semi-auto is not the easiest thing to try and do when you are in an emergency situation, and not familier with the gun... with the revolver she just has to point and shoot
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i apologize i meant to say that it is easier for Americans to have opportunities to blow each other away.

in Quebec we have a law that in order to be "innocent" while defending yourself , one needs to respond to an attack with proportionate force, (i.e you can't pull a gun on someone who's attacking you with a knife). from what i know about the US there is no such law, just you attacked me i have the right to protect myself no matter what.
the law here is stated something like, if you are in imminate danger of major bodily harm orm in fear for your life

so yes I can pull my gun on a guy with a knife if he is close enough to cause bodily harm to me
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Yeah, i'm not sure the law is spelled out like that...

I only know I have the right to defend myself, if I can..

how would that work, with proportionate force, for me, a small 5'1" woman against a 6'2" brute of a guy whether he had his fists, a knife or a gun? I dunno...
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Yeah, i'm not sure the law is spelled out like that...

I only know I have the right to defend myself, if I can..

how would that work, with proportionate force, for me, a small 5'1" woman against a 6'2" brute of a guy whether he had his fists, a knife or a gun? I dunno...
not sure about WI, but we can use dealy force for attemted rape, or anything where you are in fear for your life..... heavy ephasis on the "in fear for your life"
that is how it is spelled out in the Ohio code, every state is different
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