Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site
 

 


 
Go Back   Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site > Technical Forums > DIY / Maintenance / Service
  The Tire Rack

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-17-2011, 09:44 AM   #1
yaris2010RS
 
yaris2010RS's Avatar
 
Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Angus, Ontario
Posts: 1,891
Clutch Frozen?

So this morning was one of the coldest days of this winter here in the GTA. i woke up to a -26ish *C with wind chill. my car is parked in the garage, although it is not heated it does protect it from the wind and it does feel a tad bit warmer then outside. i have about a 50min drive to school and about 40 of those mins i couldnt use my clutch. it was very stiff, wouldnt come back up, it would very slowly return and my leg actually got tired (i have used rigs before and it was stiffer then those clutches)
when first pulling out of the garage and to the gas station i didn not notice any issue, after filling up my car with gas the clutch was stiff. it was very hard to move and continued to be like this for the next 40 mins. it slowly got a bit better then it got light again, almost instantly.

i have had this happen on another cold day before but it went away as soon as the cold light turned off. i am assuming this is caused as the hydraulic fluid gets colder and thicker but does anyone else have this issue? annd also with the fluid thicker and the pedal stiffer, what damage can this cause to the clutch cylinder (i dont know if that is the correct term)
__________________
If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it
yaris2010RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2011, 11:51 AM   #2
sleey0
 
Drives: 2008 Yaris LB
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 899
If in warranty, dealership time.

If not, then you can take a look at your linkages. It may not be the actual clutch pedal.

Oh, and RL MT90 is recommended as many of us felt the difference as soon as the tranny fluid was replaced.
__________________
"And that goes for any of you, never get put down from someone who gets jealous of you; build it and prove them wrong. There will always be haters and naysayers but those are also the ones who's cars are worth less than my seats."

xbgod - 9/23/2010
sleey0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2011, 12:13 PM   #3
33OH
 
Drives: '08 Yaris
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Dover, Ohio
Posts: 7,606
My clutch freezes as well on extremely cold days. This morning was around 5 F and it was frozen.
33OH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2011, 12:45 PM   #4
thebarber
daily driver
 
thebarber's Avatar
 
Drives: the #wrecho
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 5,877
was -18C this morning (w/o windchill) and my clutch was pretty stiff too

the transmission fluid also gets pretty tacky which makes it hard to get into gear

its a normal thing as far as i know.

while i warm up the car, ill often pump the clutch a dozen times or so to get things moving...

once the car was up to operating temps, it was fine
__________________
thebarber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2011, 01:51 PM   #5
yaris2010RS
 
yaris2010RS's Avatar
 
Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Angus, Ontario
Posts: 1,891
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebarber View Post
was -18C this morning (w/o windchill) and my clutch was pretty stiff too

the transmission fluid also gets pretty tacky which makes it hard to get into gear

its a normal thing as far as i know.

while i warm up the car, ill often pump the clutch a dozen times or so to get things moving...

once the car was up to operating temps, it was fine
i was worried to pump it..... i found it very very odd. on my next oil change i will ask about it. im sure its nothing serious but its concerning
__________________
If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it
yaris2010RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2011, 03:53 PM   #6
thebarber
daily driver
 
thebarber's Avatar
 
Drives: the #wrecho
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 5,877
i drove the yaris in -35C in new brunswick....was stickier than this morning...
__________________
thebarber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2011, 06:50 AM   #7
Vinceb
 
Drives: 2008 5 Speed Sedan
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 77
Add a block heater and warm up the car before driving, it was -17 this morning, my clutch was stiff, but no issues. if it gets colder than this then I plug in the block heater. I never had any problems when living in New Brunswick using the block heater (-30ish)
Vinceb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2011, 01:02 PM   #8
johnny_vitz
 
Drives: 2005 Toyota Echo
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hamilton, Canada
Posts: 259
Yaris2010RS - I'm in hamilton/burlington area and I had my own issues late sunday night. It was tough going into gear, clutch pedal was hard and slow coming up. So I go to start my car, it immediately stalls, start it again, stalls. CEL came on. Had to fiddle with the gas pedal and keep it at 2500rpm so it would stay running. The light was a code for the Mass air flow sensor, I think it was frozen. The whole way home it wouldnt go over 3000 rpm, but then by the time I was home it cleared itself. Haven't had an issue since (4 starts). I think my scanguage said intake temp was 1 degree F LOL Damn cold. I'll update if I have more issues, but I doubt it.
__________________
05' Echo Hatch - Greddy Supercharger - rear disc
johnny_vitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2011, 02:29 PM   #9
thebarber
daily driver
 
thebarber's Avatar
 
Drives: the #wrecho
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 5,877
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny_vitz View Post
Yaris2010RS - I'm in hamilton/burlington area and I had my own issues late sunday night. It was tough going into gear, clutch pedal was hard and slow coming up. So I go to start my car, it immediately stalls, start it again, stalls. CEL came on. Had to fiddle with the gas pedal and keep it at 2500rpm so it would stay running. The light was a code for the Mass air flow sensor, I think it was frozen. The whole way home it wouldnt go over 3000 rpm, but then by the time I was home it cleared itself. Haven't had an issue since (4 starts). I think my scanguage said intake temp was 1 degree F LOL Damn cold. I'll update if I have more issues, but I doubt it.
maybe moisture on the maf sensor? you run a cai year-round, right?

3000rpm is limp mode, btw

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinceb View Post
Add a block heater and warm up the car before driving, it was -17 this morning, my clutch was stiff, but no issues. if it gets colder than this then I plug in the block heater. I never had any problems when living in New Brunswick using the block heater (-30ish)
i might be wrong, but a block heater only warms the engine block, not the transmission (and its fluid) or clutch
__________________
thebarber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2011, 03:07 PM   #10
Vinceb
 
Drives: 2008 5 Speed Sedan
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 77
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebarber View Post
i might be wrong, but a block heater only warms the engine block, not the transmission (and its fluid) or clutch
No I don't think you're wrong, but the whole thing is metal and it all conducts heat, the heat eventually transfers through to the transmission probably not to the linkage though.
When I use the block heater, the entire engine hood is free of frost and snow
Vinceb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2011, 03:15 PM   #11
johnny_vitz
 
Drives: 2005 Toyota Echo
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hamilton, Canada
Posts: 259
Quote:
maybe moisture on the maf sensor? you run a cai year-round, right?

3000rpm is limp mode, btw
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I do run a CAI all year

The block heater only heats the coolant, so very little heat will make its way to the transmission.
__________________
05' Echo Hatch - Greddy Supercharger - rear disc
johnny_vitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 07:44 AM   #12
thebarber
daily driver
 
thebarber's Avatar
 
Drives: the #wrecho
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 5,877
-23C (-9F) this morning

clutch was gummy even with redline tranny fluid...
__________________
thebarber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 08:00 AM   #13
yaris2010RS
 
yaris2010RS's Avatar
 
Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Angus, Ontario
Posts: 1,891
i was talking to a friend of mine the other day about it (he is a small shop mechanic) and he told me its a sign of fluid failure. either air or moisture in the lines. today after class ill give toyota a call and see if i can get the system bled or flushed or what they recomend.
__________________
If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it
yaris2010RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
HELP PLEEEASE!!! my yaris starts whenever I step on the clutch pedal. trini_per4mance DIY / Maintenance / Service 42 03-27-2017 03:59 AM
Clutch shudder when setting off in 1st gear BuildCode DIY / Maintenance / Service 87 06-17-2015 07:14 AM
Help Me Find The Right Clutch RacerFreakXXX Performance Modifications 18 10-20-2010 05:20 PM
Restarting car after popping the clutch... PaidTimeOff General Yaris / Vitz Discussion 21 02-26-2009 01:40 PM
Having clutch issues ? hystria DIY / Maintenance / Service 10 08-22-2007 11:34 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:21 AM.




YarisWorld
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.