Dodge Hornet competition at all for Yaris? - Toyota Yaris Forums

Petrolhead · 02-15-2006, 04:22 PM

Anyone see this Hornet concept car from Dodge? (http://www.dodge-hornet.com)

Think it's in the same segment as the Yaris or no?

why? · 02-15-2006, 05:34 PM

The article says it is going to be entry level, but I think they mean Neon and Corolla entry level and not Yaris.

It does look interesting, but at 3100lbs the 170 hp 1.6l engine will feel underpowered.

Ziv · 02-15-2006, 05:48 PM

concept, it looks interesting now, but few years later, they are gonna change it a lil bit here and there until it looks like a 5 door neon... or sx 2.0 whatever you call it.

as400g33k · 02-15-2006, 08:32 PM

it kinda resembles the suzuki swift. roughly the same dimensions too. shared platform with GM-Suzuki perhaps?

http://www.globalsuzuki.com/swift/index.html

echo_hrs · 02-15-2006, 10:42 PM

fugly...

hhcchen · 02-15-2006, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why?

The article says it is going to be entry level, but I think they mean Neon and Corolla entry level and not Yaris.

It does look interesting, but at 3100lbs the 170 hp 1.6l engine will feel underpowered.

isn't yaris about the same weight too...??? correct me if i am wrong...
if that's the case, this little car is having more horses than yaris...
horse power to weight ratio will be better than yaris...
also, since caliber(neon) is at the level of corolla,
they might need a real entry level car like this...
so this one could be a real competition
afterall, it does have a really good seatting arrangement...

but seems like the car is a little too small...

haha... just kidding... it's a model of course...

swng · 02-16-2006, 12:53 AM

IMHO, it will have to have reliability first in order to deserve any consideration as a competition to the Yaris. Moreover, the look is too robotic to me.
Given the high gas prices these days, I am not surprised that more manufacturers will be putting out their versions of the sub-compact segment.

wushumasterku · 02-16-2006, 09:45 AM

isn't yaris around 2300 lbs?

why? · 02-16-2006, 10:08 AM

Yes, the Yaris weighs only about 2200-2300 lbs, depending on options etc.

jcove · 03-05-2006, 08:18 AM

This is built on the same platform as the SX 2.0 (Sorry if someone has mentioned already) They already have plans for a SRT version if it works as well as it's predicted. Chrysler is one of the only companies still associated with being domestic that I would think of purchasing. Since being purchased by Diamler, they have raised their standards to all their suppliers. I could be wrong on the date, but I think it was some time in 2004 that they mandated all suppliers have the TS standard. (higher than ISO) I still prefer Toyota/Honda/Nissan, but it definately raised the bar for them. Look at the Chrysler 300/Dodge Charger for example. They've built these cars on a Mercedes platform and offered it as a mid range car that is decent. Not saying they haven't had problems. The assembly plant is just down the road from where I live in Brampton and I've worked at a couple of places supplying parts to this platform.

Sorry, I started getting off topic......

jcove · 03-05-2006, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hhcchen

isn't yaris about the same weight too...??? correct me if i am wrong...
if that's the case, this little car is having more horses than yaris...
horse power to weight ratio will be better than yaris...
also, since caliber(neon) is at the level of corolla,
they might need a real entry level car like this...
so this one could be a real competition
afterall, it does have a really good seatting arrangement...

It's not compitition to the Yaris. It's a little larger, more on par with the Corrolla/Matrix as I think some other's have mentioned.

Yaris Revenge · 04-10-2006, 01:27 PM

Whoa! That's what the Scion Xb should have looked like, instead of the mail truck that it is. I think it's pretty cool!

Dodge/Chrysler is doin' one keckuva' job lately turnin' out the sportiness. Glad to see at least one American company with some imagination (oh wait... is Chrysler still considered an American company, or are they German now?)

~YR

ricko · 04-10-2006, 02:43 PM

GR8 ......... if you go for cars that look like they are built out of LEGO.

stuffy · 04-10-2006, 07:47 PM

i agree that chrylser is making some nice cars lately, the 300 and it's sister cars are really well done (if you like BIG cars),

it isn't to my taste, but the new caliber looks like a mini-magnum and is probably a big step up from the neon that it replaces.

Yaris Revenge · 04-11-2006, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricko

GR8 ......... if you go for cars that look like they are built out of LEGO.

LEGO RULEZ!!!

~YR

echo_hrs · 04-11-2006, 05:30 PM

I hate Chrysler's styling, every single car looks like a truck with that blunt front end...It's bland and uninspired...I'm also sick of the domestics and their throwback retro-themed cars...Can't they commit to anything remotely innovative or original?

stuffy · 04-11-2006, 06:58 PM

i think chrysler is the most adventurous of all of the domestic car companies, i agree, i don't like the styling of their cars, but compare them to gm or ford and they are very innovative.

why? · 04-12-2006, 10:13 AM

This doesn't look like a truck to me.

02-15-2006, 04:22 PM	#1
Petrolhead Drives: 95 Corolla Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 17	Dodge Hornet competition at all for Yaris? Anyone see this Hornet concept car from Dodge? (http://www.dodge-hornet.com) Think it's in the same segment as the Yaris or no?

02-15-2006, 05:48 PM	#3
Ziv It's all about VVTI Drives: Yaris 5Dr LE White Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 308	concept, it looks interesting now, but few years later, they are gonna change it a lil bit here and there until it looks like a 5 door neon... or sx 2.0 whatever you call it. __________________ Ziv on Vitz '06.

02-16-2006, 09:45 AM	#8
wushumasterku View User's Garage Drives: 06 White LE HB 5spd Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 173	isn't yaris around 2300 lbs? __________________ .

04-10-2006, 01:27 PM	#12
Yaris Revenge GIGA...DRILL...BREAKER!!! Drives: Lagann. ;P Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: My own little world. Posts: 717	Whoa! That's what the Scion Xb should have looked like, instead of the mail truck that it is. I think it's pretty cool! Dodge/Chrysler is doin' one keckuva' job lately turnin' out the sportiness. Glad to see at least one American company with some imagination (oh wait... is Chrysler still considered an American company, or are they German now?) ~YR __________________ Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

02-15-2006, 05:34 PM	#2
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	The article says it is going to be entry level, but I think they mean Neon and Corolla entry level and not Yaris. It does look interesting, but at 3100lbs the 170 hp 1.6l engine will feel underpowered.

02-15-2006, 08:32 PM	#4
as400g33k Drives: 05 YRS Silver Lining Metallic Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 249	it kinda resembles the suzuki swift. roughly the same dimensions too. shared platform with GM-Suzuki perhaps? http://www.globalsuzuki.com/swift/index.html

02-15-2006, 10:42 PM	#5
echo_hrs Around the universe... Drives: Uber-Evolved Pokemon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Top Gear Test Track Posts: 228	fugly...

02-16-2006, 12:53 AM	#7
swng Drives: 06 3-dr auto RS Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,051	IMHO, it will have to have reliability first in order to deserve any consideration as a competition to the Yaris. Moreover, the look is too robotic to me. Given the high gas prices these days, I am not surprised that more manufacturers will be putting out their versions of the sub-compact segment.

02-16-2006, 10:08 AM	#9
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	Yes, the Yaris weighs only about 2200-2300 lbs, depending on options etc.

03-05-2006, 08:18 AM	#10
jcove Drives: 2011 Rogue Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brampton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 231	This is built on the same platform as the SX 2.0 (Sorry if someone has mentioned already) They already have plans for a SRT version if it works as well as it's predicted. Chrysler is one of the only companies still associated with being domestic that I would think of purchasing. Since being purchased by Diamler, they have raised their standards to all their suppliers. I could be wrong on the date, but I think it was some time in 2004 that they mandated all suppliers have the TS standard. (higher than ISO) I still prefer Toyota/Honda/Nissan, but it definately raised the bar for them. Look at the Chrysler 300/Dodge Charger for example. They've built these cars on a Mercedes platform and offered it as a mid range car that is decent. Not saying they haven't had problems. The assembly plant is just down the road from where I live in Brampton and I've worked at a couple of places supplying parts to this platform. Sorry, I started getting off topic......

04-10-2006, 02:43 PM	#13
ricko Drives: Copper-Orange Yaris RS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Georgian Triangle Ont. Posts: 310	GR8 ......... if you go for cars that look like they are built out of LEGO.

04-10-2006, 07:47 PM	#14
stuffy Drives: 06 yaris 5-dr le man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 699	i agree that chrylser is making some nice cars lately, the 300 and it's sister cars are really well done (if you like BIG cars), it isn't to my taste, but the new caliber looks like a mini-magnum and is probably a big step up from the neon that it replaces.

04-11-2006, 05:30 PM	#16
echo_hrs Around the universe... Drives: Uber-Evolved Pokemon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Top Gear Test Track Posts: 228	I hate Chrysler's styling, every single car looks like a truck with that blunt front end...It's bland and uninspired...I'm also sick of the domestics and their throwback retro-themed cars...Can't they commit to anything remotely innovative or original?

04-11-2006, 06:58 PM	#17
stuffy Drives: 06 yaris 5-dr le man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 699	i think chrysler is the most adventurous of all of the domestic car companies, i agree, i don't like the styling of their cars, but compare them to gm or ford and they are very innovative.

04-12-2006, 10:13 AM	#18
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	This doesn't look like a truck to me.