Does 185/70R14 fit on Sedan? - Toyota Yaris Forums

bikeshox · 10-29-2010, 11:46 AM

Has anybody put 185/70R14 tires on a stock Yaris Sedan? I'm looking at snow tires and I am reluctant to go to the 175/65R14 that TireRack recommends because of the reduced diameter (and lower ground clearance). I currently have stock 15" tires on the car. TireRack is reluctant to sell me the 185/70R14 due to the increased diameter from my current tire and fitment would become my responsibility if I don't go with their recommended tire. The rim would be 6" ET45. Any Advice? Thanks alot!

Current tire is: 23.8" Diameter
Tire Rack recommended: 23.3" Diameter
The one I'm thinking is 24.2" Diameter

*kimona* · 10-29-2010, 11:50 AM

Once again I must reserve my comments about tireack.

Yes, 185/70/14's will fit without any worries whatsoever.

fnkngrv · 10-29-2010, 11:50 AM

so you are getting 14" wheels then right?

SailDesign · 10-29-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fnkngrv

so you are getting 14" wheels then right?

Better hope so!

Mind you, if he goes with 175/70-14s, there is only a 0.1" difference, and he gets the narrow tread width that will improve traction in the slippy stuff.

*kimona* · 10-29-2010, 01:07 PM

SailDesign makes a good point about installing narrower tyres for winter driving.

175/70/14 = 23.7" diameter
185/70/14 = 24.3" diameter

Both tyre sizes will work well. In fact, these diameters are equivalent to OEM tyre sizes:

175/65/14 = 23.0
185/60/15 = 23.7
195/50/16 = 23.7
205/45/17 = 24.3
TRD Option 215/35/18 = 23.9

With stock suspension, you may safely fit many tyres from 23.0 to 24.3, +/-3%.

bikeshox · 10-29-2010, 01:11 PM

I would really like the 175/70R14 but they don't have the particular tire in that size. That size really limits your selection.

Based on TireRack's actual measurements, i can go .5 inches smaller diameter with the 175/65R14 or .4 inches larger with the 185/70R14

Sooo... Smaller diameter with lower clearance and possibly more grip... or larger diameter with more clearance with less grip....

*kimona* · 10-29-2010, 01:22 PM

What tyre are you looking for?

SailDesign · 10-29-2010, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikeshox

I would really like the 175/70R14 but they don't have the particular tire in that size. That size really limits your selection.

Based on TireRack's actual measurements, i can go .5 inches smaller diameter with the 175/65R14 or .4 inches larger with the 185/70R14

Sooo... Smaller diameter with lower clearance and possibly more grip... or larger diameter with more clearance with less grip....

Don't think just "lower clearance" with the smaller size - think "more clearance in the wheel-well for snow". Smaller tires have their advantages....

bikeshox · 10-29-2010, 01:32 PM

The General Altimax has pretty good reviews and its cheap.

SailDesign · 10-29-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bikeshox

The General Altimax has pretty good reviews and its cheap.

It has a good family tree, too. Compare the tread pattern for the Altimax to the Nokian Hakkapeliitta 5. Notice anything?

fnkngrv · 10-29-2010, 02:26 PM

I practically ran wagon wheels on my tercel and you couldn't stop it in any type of snow

bikeshox · 10-29-2010, 02:28 PM

So the consensus seems to be smaller wheels, less width, of my two choices.

SailDesign · 10-29-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bikeshox

So the consensus seems to be smaller wheels, less width.

I wouldn't go too narrow - 175 is fine, but don't be tempted to go w-i-d-e to "float" over the snow - you need to get weight onto the tread to make contact for traction and stopping. Extremely narrow tires, like rally snow tires, are very little use on bare ploughed pavement.

*kimona* · 10-29-2010, 03:23 PM

The difference between a 175mm and 185mm tyre is really going to be negligible in the snow. I wouldn't worry about it.

Because your tyre of choice (and it's a good one) is only available in 185/70/14, I'd go with this size. You'll still have plenty of wheel-well clearance. Plus, you'll have a bit more ground clearance as an added benefit.

EDIT: BTW, I'd buy them here @ only $59 ea. INCLUDING shipping to your door, and you could also take advantage of the $50 rebate that's currently being offered to bring the price down even more!

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=false&cs=185

SailDesign · 10-29-2010, 03:40 PM

^^^ +1

*kimona* · 10-29-2010, 03:46 PM

Order them quickly. Apparently stock is low on this tyre in this size.

Bluevitz-rs · 10-30-2010, 08:46 AM

They don't come in 185/65 14? That's the tire size I run in the winter.

SailDesign · 10-30-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

They don't come in 185/65 14? That's the tire size I run in the winter.

Yup, they do - just not from that source. Here they are:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....MAXA&tab=Sizes

10-29-2010, 11:46 AM	#1
bikeshox Drives: 07' Sedan Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MN Posts: 22	Does 185/70R14 fit on Sedan? Has anybody put 185/70R14 tires on a stock Yaris Sedan? I'm looking at snow tires and I am reluctant to go to the 175/65R14 that TireRack recommends because of the reduced diameter (and lower ground clearance). I currently have stock 15" tires on the car. TireRack is reluctant to sell me the 185/70R14 due to the increased diameter from my current tire and fitment would become my responsibility if I don't go with their recommended tire. The rim would be 6" ET45. Any Advice? Thanks alot! Current tire is: 23.8" Diameter Tire Rack recommended: 23.3" Diameter The one I'm thinking is 24.2" Diameter

10-29-2010, 11:50 AM	#3
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	so you are getting 14" wheels then right? __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

10-29-2010, 01:11 PM	#6
bikeshox Drives: 07' Sedan Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MN Posts: 22	I would really like the 175/70R14 but they don't have the particular tire in that size. That size really limits your selection. Based on TireRack's actual measurements, i can go .5 inches smaller diameter with the 175/65R14 or .4 inches larger with the 185/70R14 Sooo... Smaller diameter with lower clearance and possibly more grip... or larger diameter with more clearance with less grip.... Last edited by bikeshox; 10-29-2010 at 01:23 PM.

10-29-2010, 02:26 PM	#11
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	I practically ran wagon wheels on my tercel and you couldn't stop it in any type of snow __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

10-29-2010, 02:28 PM	#12
bikeshox Drives: 07' Sedan Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MN Posts: 22	So the consensus seems to be smaller wheels, less width, of my two choices. Last edited by bikeshox; 10-29-2010 at 03:19 PM.

10-29-2010, 11:50 AM	#2
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	Once again I must reserve my comments about tireack. Yes, 185/70/14's will fit without any worries whatsoever.

10-29-2010, 01:07 PM	#5
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	SailDesign makes a good point about installing narrower tyres for winter driving. 175/70/14 = 23.7" diameter 185/70/14 = 24.3" diameter Both tyre sizes will work well. In fact, these diameters are equivalent to OEM tyre sizes: 175/65/14 = 23.0 185/60/15 = 23.7 195/50/16 = 23.7 205/45/17 = 24.3 TRD Option 215/35/18 = 23.9 With stock suspension, you may safely fit many tyres from 23.0 to 24.3, +/-3%.

10-29-2010, 01:22 PM	#7
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	What tyre are you looking for?

10-29-2010, 01:32 PM	#9
bikeshox Drives: 07' Sedan Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MN Posts: 22	The General Altimax has pretty good reviews and its cheap.

10-29-2010, 03:23 PM	#14
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	The difference between a 175mm and 185mm tyre is really going to be negligible in the snow. I wouldn't worry about it. Because your tyre of choice (and it's a good one) is only available in 185/70/14, I'd go with this size. You'll still have plenty of wheel-well clearance. Plus, you'll have a bit more ground clearance as an added benefit. EDIT: BTW, I'd buy them here @ only $59 ea. INCLUDING shipping to your door, and you could also take advantage of the $50 rebate that's currently being offered to bring the price down even more! http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=false&cs=185 Last edited by kimona; 10-29-2010 at 03:34 PM.

10-29-2010, 03:40 PM	#15
SailDesign Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,931	^^^ +1

10-29-2010, 03:46 PM	#16
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	Order them quickly. Apparently stock is low on this tyre in this size.

10-30-2010, 08:46 AM	#17
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	They don't come in 185/65 14? That's the tire size I run in the winter.

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