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11-11-2016, 12:24 PM | #1 |
Small cars are a big deal
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What's the Future of Small Cars in the U.S.?
http://www.subcompactculture.com/201...ars-in-us.html
With lower gas prices, it seems like there hasn't been as much enthusiasm about small cars lately. No groundbreaking new cars, no no hot hatches (e.g. Fiesta ST, Abarth .. where's our turbo Yaris?). Maybe I've just had scope creep since I've been working on my Jeep a lot, but it just doesn't seem like there's been much small car buzz recently.
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11-11-2016, 12:27 PM | #2 |
It's the illusion you see
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I read GM is struggling with small calls and lays off 2800
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11-11-2016, 01:19 PM | #3 |
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More room for truck production, likely. FCA is doing the same thing. Heck, they're killing the Dart off.
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11-12-2016, 12:34 PM | #4 |
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me me me/ entitled thinking ... so many people buying ridiculous/ giant/ expensive vehicles
cheap gas now ... it wont last free money (low interest rates) ... it wont last huge numbers of people living beyond their means ... the debtor lifestyle what about the focus rs ... its pretty cool! Last edited by kimona; 11-12-2016 at 01:42 PM. |
11-12-2016, 02:44 PM | #5 |
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1990 civic got 35 mpg.
What's a 2016 civic get? Bet it's not 35.
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11-12-2016, 03:22 PM | #6 |
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People are going with 6 year loans to get lower monthly payments to get large vehicles . Meanwhile the book value goes down and end up upside down when time to trade , making for a larger loan for next vehicle . Remember when owners of large vehicles were setting them on fire to get out of the loan . Amazing how consumers have short memories .
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11-12-2016, 04:45 PM | #7 |
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Looks like we're starting to go the same way here in Australia.
For the last three years, the top selling vehicle here was the Corolla, but it looks like it's about to loose that spot to the Toyota Hilux.with the Ford Ranger in second place.
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11-12-2016, 05:52 PM | #8 |
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Big cars to fuel big egos, its no surprised with our consumer driven never ending desire type society.
Eventually it will level out, people living well beyond their means is the new norm and many don't like being told that is what they are exactly doing
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11-12-2016, 09:05 PM | #9 |
It's the illusion you see
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Well, I'm looking into a large SUV (7 seater) as a next vehicle. It's either that, or a mini van. We refuse to drive a mini van.
Maybe when the kids are a little older, gonna opt for a large sedan. Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk |
11-12-2016, 11:41 PM | #10 |
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Our "mini van" was the Vibe we bought, also didn't want a mini van and the Vibe is surprisingly spacious. Next "big" vehicle will be a Subie outback
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11-13-2016, 08:05 AM | #11 | |
It's the illusion you see
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A Mazda 5 is doing the job (for now), but we really need more storage space. I have just enough to put the stroller now. Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk |
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11-13-2016, 10:15 AM | #12 |
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No kidding, you'd need a pretty big vehicle for 3 car seats
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11-13-2016, 10:19 PM | #13 |
stop staring my star perv
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there are recent news about the new Nissan micra and Honda wr-v... if you count them as groundbreaking new cars...
oh, and Toyota c-hr... Last edited by hhcchen; 11-14-2016 at 12:40 AM. |
11-14-2016, 02:16 PM | #14 | |
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Comparing a 1990 Civic and a 2017 Civic is hardly apples to apples. The only thing similar is the name. Chevy Sprint got upwards of 50 mpg back in the day. It was also a deathtrap, uncomfortable, and tinny. However, it does prove two things: - People would buy "poverty spec" cars back then. - With fewer safety/comfort/performance amenities, you could get better fuel economy.
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11-14-2016, 05:50 PM | #15 |
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Reading something about small cars: "Small cars help automakers meet corporate average fuel economy standards (CAFE), thus allowing them to sell more highly profitable, but less fuel efficient large cars."
So, manufacturers will still build or import small cars, even if the margins of profit are slim or sell at loss. Small cars made for the US market are more equipped (especially in safety) than the ones sold here in my country and more cheap. Economic conditions and the roads are different too, but they need to profit so they will build what people buys. : ( |
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Crazy.
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11-15-2016, 08:26 AM | #17 |
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Keep in mind Toyota's mpg figures are fairly easily surpassed in the real world. Most others are highly over estimated and in the real world you achieve much lower numbers
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11-15-2016, 12:17 PM | #18 |
Isn't there something to be said about safety, too? I never give much thought to how well I'll be able to walk away from an accident in my Yaris, but when I do, I think about how much better my chances are in a big truck.
Hard to fault folks for needing extra family space, or just wanting to feel a little more protected. |
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