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Old 01-06-2013, 03:47 PM   #1
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Oil Pan Drain Valve

2004 Echo RS:
So, with the amount of commuting I do with the car, I wanted to cut down on getting new drain plug gaskets and cut the touch time on an oil change.
I installed a Fumoto Oil drain valve (PN: F103S)(12mm-1.25) from Quik Valve in New York.
Easy install when you do your next oil change.
You can get a white plastic adapter that will attach to the valve and plastic hose to help drain the oil if needed. but I didn't install it as the plastic adapter is hard to remove once installed.
Here are some pics of the install.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:06 PM   #2
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I love the Fumoto valves, and have them on almost all of my vehicles. With the position of the Yaris oil pan you would almost like to have a little something to protect the valve.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:17 PM   #3
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i read on BITOG that fumoto valves are prone to leaking. They're an unnecessary risk imo
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:20 PM   #4
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i read on BITOG that fumoto valves are prone to leaking. They're an unnecessary risk imo
I can't imagine one leaking. They are widely used on industrial machinery and are incredibly well made ball valves. I can see the cheapo Fram ones leaking, but not the Fumotos.
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Old 01-06-2013, 05:31 PM   #5
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One thing for sure a properly tightened drain bolt aint leaking if you run over something and it hits the bolt.

You cant say the same thing for a valve.

Also you just made it easier for someone bent on doing you dirt to mess with you.

Unlikely as that may be...
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:32 PM   #6
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I had one of these on mine for a couple of years and didn't have any problems with it. If you hit something high enough and hard enough to damage this valve, it would have a good chance of puncturing the oil pan anyway. I've never hit anything and cracked my oil pan, but I have f'd up enough bolts to think that under tightening or f'ing up the threads on the drain plug would be more likely problems. Both are prevented by using the valve.

The only reason I took it off was that I felt like the valve went into the oil pan a little too far and left a few ounces more oil in it than I was happy with. I plan on putting it back on at some point in the future, altering it in some way so more of the oil drains out.
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:57 PM   #7
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Intresting stuff

Anyone else had experience with these?
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:44 AM   #8
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Happy pony pointed out the one reason I removed mine. My plan is to cut some of it off and then seal it upon installation. Just haven't gotten around to it.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:23 AM   #9
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Look at the specs for engines and you will see "oil capacity at oil change" and "oil capacity at rebuild".

All engines have some residual oil in them when you drain it to "change" it.

My ST1300 holds five quarts but only four come out when you drain the crankcase.

So if it bothers you that the drain valves stick in a bit father, you are worried about nothing.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:14 PM   #10
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Thanks, and I knew that...but I still worry about nothing alot.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:22 PM   #11
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Look at the specs for engines and you will see "oil capacity at oil change" and "oil capacity at rebuild".

All engines have some residual oil in them when you drain it to "change" it.

My ST1300 holds five quarts but only four come out when you drain the crankcase.

So if it bothers you that the drain valves stick in a bit father, you are worried about nothing.
I checked this by draining the oil with the valve in and then unscrewing the valve to see how much comes out. It's like half a cup of oil. I think that just adding an extra washer would probably fix the problem.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:53 PM   #12
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Great!

How often can we fix the problems in our lives?
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:57 AM   #13
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^^^^ditto. Now that beats cutting.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:42 PM   #14
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i read on BITOG that fumoto valves are prone to leaking. They're an unnecessary risk imo
I've use a dozen over the last 20 years, never had one leak. never heard of a leaker either. I would not put one on my yaris because the car is to low/exposed.
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:45 PM   #15
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I've use a dozen over the last 20 years, never had one leak. never heard of a leaker either. I would not put one on my yaris because the car is to low/exposed.
That just addressed my concern. W/ the low clearance, I fear hitting an object (branch, rock etc) and something opening the valve or it hooking on something and getting torn out.

The broken Fumoto Valve
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:46 PM   #16
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Anyone run a piggyback plug? if so, do you have a part#? (2010 Yaris) That may be preferable. Saves wear/tear on drain pan threads and doesn't 'stick out' from the drain pain.
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Old 01-06-2018, 06:06 PM   #17
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in response to this 5 year old thread:
it's a steel oil pan cover. steel bolt into steel oil pad does not wear out very quickly.
a new oil pan cover is $32
if it is a problem you are concerned with, replace the pan every 4 years or whatever.
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