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Old 10-05-2009, 03:28 PM   #19
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If you are right, post some numbers. Your claim of them not having gains has no validity as much as them claiming they do have gains. So for you to say they are wrong, and that they need to show numbers to prove they are right, is just as stupid as your say their claims are. Technically, the guy who installed the filter in HIS own car, that HE drives, should have more validity to his statement, opposed to yours. Until YOU can prove your claims with numbers, you will continue to be looked at as an ass.
lol... AFE doesn't claim MPG increases. Neither does K&N.

I bought a chip on ebay and my yaris now has 200 horsepower... You have to prove this wrong or I am right...
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:51 PM   #20
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Prove it wrong. Post numbers.
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:52 PM   #21
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So let me get this straight supmet... your telling me that a less restrictive air filter Is going to have No effect on throttle response or MPG over the stock one?
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:31 PM   #22
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So let me get this straight supmet... your telling me that a less restrictive air filter Is going to have No effect on throttle response or MPG over the stock one?
http://www.metrompg.com/posts/air-filter-part-1.htm
http://www.metrompg.com/posts/air-filter-part-2.htm

"Once again, there's no practical difference between the paper and K&N filter - the difference between their averages (.50 km/gal) is smaller than the variation within the set of averaged K&N runs (.65 km/gal). This time, even the one-off "No filter" run landed in the middle of the results."
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:36 PM   #23
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^ from your link:

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it's important to note that this test says nothing about the relative performance of filter types at wider throttle openings. In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say that at wide open throttle (WOT), the K&N filter would probably deliver more air (and therefore better efficiency due to decreased pumping losses) than OEM paper.
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:44 PM   #24
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^ from your link:
It could be true. It might have better responsiveness, I was just asking for some kind of proof since every mod has a well known placebo affect. The mpg thing has been proven time and time again on the internet, though.

I'm gonna let this one die. Its a good product and Garm is a good vendor. Just don't expect things the manufacturer doesn't even claim will happen.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:17 AM   #25
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I got one of these about 3 months ago. It sounds a little better but I haven't noticed any MPG improvement. I bought it because of the fact that it's washable and will save me money in the long run, plus I don't have to worry about filter oil supposedly messing with my MAF sensor.
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Old 02-13-2010, 02:09 PM   #26
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I just picked up one of these. Good price and I think I'm getting a little old for that huge intake Honk on a daily basis.. and its alot cheaper than the whole intake system.
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:32 AM   #27
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I just picked up one of these. Good price and I think I'm getting a little old for that huge intake Honk on a daily basis.. and its alot cheaper than the whole intake system.
I want one of these for my '10 5-Door. I assume there's been no change between the '09 and the '10 air box...right?

When I go to the AFE website it shows part # 30-10150. Is this right? It lists it as a "Scion xD 1.8L" filter. Maybe they use the same filter? Anyone know?

EDIT: I just crossed referenced the K&N filter #'s and they show the same part # for the Yaris and xD. So I'll assume that the AFE's are shared as well. Somone can still chime in and verify though.

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Old 03-20-2010, 12:57 PM   #28
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Yes it's a part common to both. In stock too.

http://www.shop.microimageonline.com...r-30-10150.htm

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Old 03-20-2010, 04:36 PM   #29
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Whether you get the K&N or AFE, just get rid of the stock paper filter if you are retaining the stock air box.
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:20 PM   #30
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Wait...just realized this is not the Pro-Dry, but the oiled filter...right? Darn it...I want it in the dry version. AFE's site doesn't show a dry one though.
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I'll have to check on that.
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Old 03-21-2010, 12:32 PM   #32
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I'll have to check on that.
You can run it either way.
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^ yeah but they appear to be two different part numbers. I'm betting the oiled one comes pre-oiled, which means you're kind of committed to it being that way. I think?

I actually think I have the 31-10150, the dry one in stock. I'll check at my shop.
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I have been runnnig K&N oiled filters for years without a single problem
I have to think that all the horror stories you hear about oiled filters stem fom useres who clean and then, over oil the fillter.

Fact is, it's really hard to over oil one if you can follow very simple directions and have a rudimentary semblance of common sense.

I'n sure the AFE filters are much the same.
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:24 PM   #36
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Never mind, I found it.

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