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marcus · 03-23-2009, 07:26 PM

psssssst daf... shes not a woman...

yarstar · 03-23-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

I'm using Amsoil 0W-20. I love this stuff, along with their EA filter.

+1

firemachine69 · 03-23-2009, 11:20 PM

Use it with confidence. Your body panels will be falling apart long before your engine shows significant wear.

1stToyota · 03-24-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by daf62757

A woman that knows her oil! What a catch!

Yeah, not a woman, just a fan of Megan.

I have a friend that's an Amsoil dealer and at one time he gave me a quick rundown of their different series of oils--and I seemed to remember that the XL series was group III, ACEA A1/B1, and API approved, so I looked it up to be sure. I'll go ahead and stick with Pennzoil Platinum, over the XL.

daf62757 · 03-24-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Yeah, not a woman, just a fan of Megan.

I have a friend that's an Amsoil dealer and at one time he gave me a quick rundown of their different series of oils--and I seemed to remember that the XL series was group III, ACEA A1/B1, and API approved, so I looked it up to be sure. I'll go ahead and stick with Pennzoil Platinum, over the XL.

Sorry for the mistake....

daf62757 · 05-14-2009, 12:22 PM

Just to follow up...I recently did an oil change and switched to Pennzoil Platinum 5w20. I then went on a 2k mile road trip to Louisiana and I was impressed. The engine sounded much smoother and the mileage was OK...(75MPH, AC on, with an average 37MPH). Not enough imperical evidence, I know....but just on the Wheel Interface Mechanism (the human behind the wheel) I am satisfied! The PP was very cheap, I bought it at Advanced Auto for 29.99 for 5 qts and a Mobil 1 oil filter. I also changed my wife's Rav4 at the same and have 2 qts to spare!

1stToyota · 05-14-2009, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daf62757

Just to follow up...I recently did an oil change and switched to Pennzoil Platinum 5w20. I then went on a 2k mile road trip to Louisiana and I was impressed. The engine sounded much smoother and the mileage was OK...(75MPH, AC on, with an average 37MPH). Not enough impreical evidence, I know....but just on the Wheel Interface Mechanism (the human behind the wheel) I am satisfied! The PP was very cheap, I bought it at Advanced Auto for 29.99 for 5 qts and a Mobil 1 oil filter. I also changed my wife's Rav4 at the same and have 2 qts to spare!

I'm getting a UOA at my next PP 5w-30 OCI. I ran Eneos and Amsoil, and the engine with PP seems to be very smooth and quiet; the best so far. Paid $3.99 per qt at O'Reilly, 3 cases before their sale ended.

GeneW · 05-14-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by daf62757

I know this issue has been talked about extensively, but I am wondering if anyone has used 0w20 for a while and what has been there experience with it? I see contradicting info on using 0w20 and I am curious if someone has actually been using it, what is their experience with it, and have they experienced any engine damage as a result.

I use Valvoline Synpower, 5W-30. To each their own...

Gene

DerFlosser · 05-14-2009, 08:15 PM

0-20 is to little protection for a timing chain...especially as the guides wear and the temperature rises. 5-30 is a perfect oil for this motor.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 05-15-2009, 08:45 AM

NEWEST dealer letter from toyota explains their plan to use 0W20 in ALL their cars begining with some 2010 models. the letter explained in detail toyota's plan to increase maintence interval mileage and their request for dealers to expand/add 0w20 oil tanks.

1stToyota · 05-15-2009, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROCKLAND TOYOTA

NEWEST dealer letter from toyota explains their plan to use 0W20 in ALL their cars begining with some 2010 models. the letter explained in detail toyota's plan to increase maintence interval mileage and their request for dealers to expand/add 0w20 oil tanks.

Because they're pressured to show better fuel economy ratings and project that their cars need less service now, or because it'll make the engines last longer by switching viscosity and changing it less often?

R2D2 · 06-03-2009, 08:55 PM

As usual I agree with 360cubes. However, since the Amsoil 0W-20 does not carry ILSAC GF-4 and 0W-20 is not approved by Toyota for these engines people should understand they may have a battle for warranty coverage if the dealer decides to push it.
The burden is on the dealer to prove your oil choice caused the problem, but this can make life pretty uncomfortable in the meantime. Also Amsoil is only going to cover a problem if the oil is the oil they recommend for your vehicle and it causes the problem (it isn't and it won't). Currently Amsoil's website recommends all 30 wt products.

Having said that it makes no sense to me why 0W-20 oils are not approved by Toyota. Most quality 0W-20's should provide the same protection as there 5W counterparts with even better cold start performance.

For those of you using the Amsoil 0W-20 it is an exceptional product and among my favorite oils regardless of viscosity. I have used it in a police cruiser out to 15,500 mi PLUS OVER 300 hrs of IDLE TIME with excellent oil analysis results. For those of you who are out of warranty or willing to fight Toyota if need be and want to greatly extend oil change intervals I would highly recommend the Amsoil 0W-20.

I will be using Schaeffer's Supreme 7000 5W-20 for the first and subsequent oil changes in my Yaris, as it is ILSAC GF-4 (carries the starburst), is approved 5W-20 and is very reasonably priced for a cake walk 5 k mi/6 mo oci.

As some have mentioned Pennzoil also offers up an excellent product at a very reasonable price with there Platinum line. Mobil 1, Synpower-all these products are overkill for 5k oci's-and that's ok in my book.

Tamago · 06-03-2009, 09:15 PM

i vote the next person who starts a "0w" thread gets a 3 day ban

03-23-2009, 07:26 PM	#19
marcus toyota View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Blazed Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 3,637	psssssst daf... shes not a woman... Last edited by marcus; 05-14-2009 at 12:50 PM.

05-14-2009, 12:22 PM	#24
daf62757 Nothing beats a Toyota! View User's Garage Drives: 2013 Yaris 5 dr liftback Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 564	Just to follow up...I recently did an oil change and switched to Pennzoil Platinum 5w20. I then went on a 2k mile road trip to Louisiana and I was impressed. The engine sounded much smoother and the mileage was OK...(75MPH, AC on, with an average 37MPH). Not enough imperical evidence, I know....but just on the Wheel Interface Mechanism (the human behind the wheel) I am satisfied! The PP was very cheap, I bought it at Advanced Auto for 29.99 for 5 qts and a Mobil 1 oil filter. I also changed my wife's Rav4 at the same and have 2 qts to spare! __________________ Big Dave Indianapolis, IN Synthetic Oil....its in my car.....for at least 10,000 miles! Last edited by daf62757; 05-14-2009 at 11:42 PM.

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03-23-2009, 11:20 PM	#21
firemachine69 School'er of hard knocks Drives: Silver Yaris 4dr. HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sudbury, On Posts: 556	Use it with confidence. Your body panels will be falling apart long before your engine shows significant wear.

05-14-2009, 08:15 PM	#27
DerFlosser Drives: Yaris Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Posts: 355	0-20 is to little protection for a timing chain...especially as the guides wear and the temperature rises. 5-30 is a perfect oil for this motor.

05-15-2009, 08:45 AM	#28
ROCKLAND TOYOTA TRIM HUNTER View User's Garage Drives: 2007 BLAZIN BLUE YARIS 3 DR Join Date: May 2006 Location: ROCKLAND COUNTY NY Posts: 2,088	NEWEST dealer letter from toyota explains their plan to use 0W20 in ALL their cars begining with some 2010 models. the letter explained in detail toyota's plan to increase maintence interval mileage and their request for dealers to expand/add 0w20 oil tanks.

06-03-2009, 08:55 PM	#30
R2D2 Crazy Oil Sniffer Drives: MM 09 Yaris 5 Dr LB "Click" Join Date: May 2009 Location: ME Posts: 498	As usual I agree with 360cubes. However, since the Amsoil 0W-20 does not carry ILSAC GF-4 and 0W-20 is not approved by Toyota for these engines people should understand they may have a battle for warranty coverage if the dealer decides to push it. The burden is on the dealer to prove your oil choice caused the problem, but this can make life pretty uncomfortable in the meantime. Also Amsoil is only going to cover a problem if the oil is the oil they recommend for your vehicle and it causes the problem (it isn't and it won't). Currently Amsoil's website recommends all 30 wt products. Having said that it makes no sense to me why 0W-20 oils are not approved by Toyota. Most quality 0W-20's should provide the same protection as there 5W counterparts with even better cold start performance. For those of you using the Amsoil 0W-20 it is an exceptional product and among my favorite oils regardless of viscosity. I have used it in a police cruiser out to 15,500 mi PLUS OVER 300 hrs of IDLE TIME with excellent oil analysis results. For those of you who are out of warranty or willing to fight Toyota if need be and want to greatly extend oil change intervals I would highly recommend the Amsoil 0W-20. I will be using Schaeffer's Supreme 7000 5W-20 for the first and subsequent oil changes in my Yaris, as it is ILSAC GF-4 (carries the starburst), is approved 5W-20 and is very reasonably priced for a cake walk 5 k mi/6 mo oci. As some have mentioned Pennzoil also offers up an excellent product at a very reasonable price with there Platinum line. Mobil 1, Synpower-all these products are overkill for 5k oci's-and that's ok in my book.