09 Just Got 41 MPG!

[bronsin]

Today I had a chance to drive ~125 miles on the NJTPK. ~62 miles there and ~62 miles back after an hour or so. 65 mph.

Before that I drove 107 miles 7 miles at a time. Ive been getting 35 mpg under those circumstances. Thats almost all the driving my car ever does!

So at the end of the trip with 239 miles showing on ODO 1 and five bars showing on the gauge (driving about 40 miles on the fifth bar) I put 5.85 gallon of regular in the tank.

Got to think I had very nearly four bars when I filled up!

The end result was 40.8 mpg!

So 107 miles at 35 mpg means I got better than 40.8 on the highway at 65 mph.

The bad news is my 01 ECHO with manual trans got 53 mpg once driving to AC and back at 65 mph.

[Astroman]

Good news, however I moved your thread to the fuel economy section.

[mirapatec]

I have experienced this joy a couple of times already. It is a great feeling to obtain such high mileage figures. I am actually having a blast with Fuelly.

[Shinare]

This makes me sad. :(

[nookandcrannycar]

Yahoo! Auto page (they pulled it from cnbc.com) - 5 lowest cost (cents per mile) cars:

#1 - Prius C (7.2 cents per mile)
#2 - (tie) Ford Fusion Hybrid and Ford C-Max Hybrid (7.6 cents per mile)
#3 - (tie) VW Jetta Hybrid and Lincoln MKZ Hybrid (8.0 cents per mile)

My last tank = 8.1068 cents per mile (41.5572 mpg burning gas that cost 3.369 USD per U.S. gallon)

[bronsin]

Yeah what they need to do is lowest cost per mile including the purchase price!

I bet YARIS wins!

I always say the Prius (and all hybrids) takes the money you would have given to Exxon and gives it to Toyota (or other!)

With INTEREST!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Yeah what they need to do is lowest cost per mile including the purchase price!

I bet YARIS wins!

I always say the Prius (and all hybrids) takes the money you would have given to Exxon and gives it to Toyota (or other!)

With INTEREST!

Really though, the Yaris pretty much did win as the Prius C is essentially a Yaris Hybrid. Re value, it depends on how you would use it. Wiithin the last few weeks I saw an ad for a new Standard Prius 2 that would bring the cost within $5900 of the base price of the base Yaris. If you are single and, in the future, want to do some out of the way exploring (like me) it might be a good value. If you need your environment to be climate controlled, you can turn on the climate control in a Prius, set the alarm, and stretch out on an air mattress. When the battery gets to a certain point, the engine will kick on and run only 4 minutes out of each 30 minutes to keep the climate control at the desired temperature. If you don't need that level of climate control (and want more room) for under $100.00 you can install a Habitent over the open hatch (designed by an aftermarket company for the Prius). Twelve $500 per night hotel rooms or 60 - $100 per night hotel rooms or 120 - $50 per night hotel rooms (or some combination that added up to the same total) over 7 + years would eliminate the cost difference. Once the gap was closed, you'd actually already be ahead with the Prius because the MPG level is higher.

[bronsin]

At current prices and driving whatever the average miles per year is, the Prius will NEVER be cheaper to own than a Yaris.

Whatever else you want to do is fine but it wont cost less given the above.

[Hershey]

A new Prius C 1 can be had for under $18,000 . The 2 can be purchased for $17,999 . Not much more than a top of the line Yaris with an automatic .

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by Hershey

A new Prius C 1 can be had for under $18,000 . The 2 can be purchased for $17,999 . Not much more than a top of the line Yaris with an automatic .

My shoot from the hip reaction to that is...not in NJ!

A quick and dirty search of a local dealer, the cheapest Prius and the cheapest Yaris:

Prius c $19080

Yaris $14380

$5000 difference!

[goliath1812]

Prius C One also has Keyless entry, Bluetooth, USB port, Projectors, 4 doors.
To get a similar Yaris, it would be more on par with the 5 door SE, which is $16,540 MSRP.

Prius - $19,080
Yaris SE - $16,540

Difference - $2540. Not too shabby.

I know not everybody wants all those extra features, but let's try to compare apples to apples here.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by goliath1812

I know not everybody wants all those extra features, but let's try to compare apples to apples here.

Uh oh here we go.

Obviously we can make the outcome happen any way we want it to.

[goliath1812]

Not trying to start any kind of pissing match, let's just say that both the Yaris and the Prius are great cars :)

[bronsin]

Yep.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

At current prices and driving whatever the average miles per year is, the Prius will NEVER be cheaper to own than a Yaris.

Whatever else you want to do is fine but it wont cost less given the above.

My idea for use isn't the norm, but it isn't unique....otherwise the Habitent (open hatch) wouldn't be a successful product, and you wouldn't be able to find people using the standard Prius (closed hatch) as a hard shell tent on YouTube, nor on their own blogs. If you are looking only at the average miles per year (and nothing else) of course you're right. However, IF a planned use mitigates some other expense (all of which are part of the overall expenses in one's life), then that would be something to consider when weighing a purchase.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

My shoot from the hip reaction to that is...not in NJ!

A quick and dirty search of a local dealer, the cheapest Prius and the cheapest Yaris:

Prius c $19080

Yaris $14380

$5000 difference!

Both of us (in our posts) display that we have a healthy regard for 'What is the cheapest' . When I saw the new standard Prius 2 ad recently for $20,300 base, I knew that the Yaris base was about $14,300-14,400...and that was how I came up with the difference in my previous post. With both, my thought was 'what is the cheapest'. The only things I'd care about re a standard Prius would be the size, the increase in MPG, being a Hybrid (if I have to sit in traffic, and it's summer, I have to keep the engine on to run the A/C...and therefore waste gas. I don't like to waste gas ), the way the hybrid interacts with the climate control system (for sleeping), and having upper and lower passenger glove boxes (like the Gen 2 Yaris). They could leave out the expense of the power windows (and some other things) and I wouldn't care (I know...adding the power windows doesn't COST them very much, I just HAD to throw that in there ).

[bronsin]

If I had LOTS of money (or needed to enhance my image as environmentally conscious for my show biz career) by all means I would probably buy a Prius.

It IS good for the environment and I think thats important.

I also get a kick out of racking up the mpgs.

And a Prius has proven to be as reliable as anything Toyota makes and I want reliability too.

Although when it gets old maybe not....

For me the Yaris does it best!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Hershey

A new Prius C 1 can be had for under $18,000 . The 2 can be purchased for $17,999 . Not much more than a top of the line Yaris with an automatic .

When you first posted the $17,999 price (in a previous post), I had the same thought - not much more than a Yaris SE.