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jambo101 · 03-23-2009, 05:45 AM

When i bought the car they gave me a master key with some buttons on it and 2 valet keys,all 3 will open the doors and start the car.So i got another key made from the master key and it opens the doors but wont start the car,car turns over but wont start with this new key

why?

rningonfumes · 03-23-2009, 05:52 AM

The two valet keys, they aren't just metal and have thick rubber or plastic on where you would grip them with your fingers when you turn?

I'm thinking your 3 keys have transponders (chips) in them. So throw that new one you made into your wallet incase you get locked out and go make one at the dealor if you want one that works.

Experiment: Use the new key, but hold one of your other keys beside it.

Lafiro · 03-23-2009, 08:39 AM

What!????????

REM · 03-23-2009, 08:51 AM

It doesn't seem like the car would turn-over if our keys have chips in them. Maybe I'm wrong, but I had one like that on another car and I didn't get anything when I tried to use a copied key in the ignition.

firebob · 03-23-2009, 08:55 AM

I did not think that the 09 Yaris had the transponders in the keys. It was looked up when I had some keys made. I use a key that dose not have any plastic or rubber on it and it works just fine.

CTScott · 03-23-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by firebob

I did not think that the 09 Yaris had the transponders in the keys. It was looked up when I had some keys made. I use a key that dose not have any plastic or rubber on it and it works just fine.

If the car is equipped with the "Engine Immobilizer" it uses transponder keys. My 09 included it with the power package.

The easiest way to tell if a car has it and hence requires the transponder keys is to look for the flashing red LED on the left side of the dash, after you shut the car off. It is visible when looking at the car from outside.

The other way to tell is to look at the ignition switch - If the car has the Engine Immobilizer you will see metal trim around the switch. If it doesn't the trim will be plastic.

IllusionX · 03-23-2009, 09:01 AM

all new cars sold in Canada since 2008 must be equipped with a transponder key.

Jambo101: one of the other key is a master key without remote. one is a valet key that will not open the trunk. the trunk can be locked by using a master key and turning LEFT (opposite direction than opening)

firebob · 03-23-2009, 09:10 AM

Ok I see now. I do not have the power package.

YarisSedan · 03-23-2009, 06:20 PM

Engine will try to start when fuel is disabled. Just wont start. Thats why it feels like its trying to turn over. Being engine is immoblized. Since it has a immobilizer? That immobilizes the engine but cutting off the fuel to prevent theft. Incase someone tries to steal the car and doesnt have the key that is keyed to the ignition. Which is why you have to buy the special key from the dealer have them key and code it to your ignition for it to work.

rningonfumes · 03-23-2009, 06:32 PM

I think it's a matter of the countries. I know Canada gets some goodies we here in the states don't-- back then at least, don't know about 2009 cars.

jambo101 · 03-23-2009, 08:21 PM

Guess i got chips in the keys..Whats a dealer gonna charge me for a spare key??

supmet · 03-23-2009, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo101

Guess i got chips in the keys..Whats a dealer gonna charge me for a spare key??

I'm guessing a LOT, but not sure. If they quote you something outrageous you should be able to find a locksmith that works on transponders to make you one for cheaper.

IllusionX · 03-24-2009, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo101

Guess i got chips in the keys..Whats a dealer gonna charge me for a spare key??

it's something like 127$ for a blank with remote.

kustom play · 03-24-2009, 02:59 PM

yea they are expensive

im kinda glad i dont have that

CTScott · 03-24-2009, 03:27 PM

Most automotive locksmiths will have the equipment to program a new transponder key, and will typically charge far less than a dealer. The uncut transponder keys for the Yaris are about $30, plus cutting and programming.

Dealer list for the key is about $50, but the one that I checked with wanted over $100 including cutting and programming.

The part number for the 08 and 09 Yaris transponder keys is: 89785-60160.

IllusionX · 03-24-2009, 05:37 PM

cscott, did you check the one with the remote??

CTScott · 03-24-2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllusionX

cscott, did you check the one with the remote??

The one with the built in remote is 89070-52850 for 08 and 09. The dealers get over $200 plus whatever they charge to cut the key, teach the remote entry system, and program the transponder.

IllusionX · 03-25-2009, 09:37 AM

thanks.
it's quite a bit cheaper without a transponder chip in the remote/key.

03-23-2009, 05:45 AM	#1
jambo101 Drives: yaris 08 sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 1,286	New car keys When i bought the car they gave me a master key with some buttons on it and 2 valet keys,all 3 will open the doors and start the car.So i got another key made from the master key and it opens the doors but wont start the car,car turns over but wont start with this new keywhy?

03-23-2009, 05:52 AM	#2
rningonfumes Drives: Yaris Sedan 5MT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 865	The two valet keys, they aren't just metal and have thick rubber or plastic on where you would grip them with your fingers when you turn? I'm thinking your 3 keys have transponders (chips) in them. So throw that new one you made into your wallet incase you get locked out and go make one at the dealor if you want one that works. Experiment: Use the new key, but hold one of your other keys beside it. __________________

03-23-2009, 08:51 AM	#4
REM View User's Garage Drives: 2012 Nissan Leaf SL Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 89	It doesn't seem like the car would turn-over if our keys have chips in them. Maybe I'm wrong, but I had one like that on another car and I didn't get anything when I tried to use a copied key in the ignition. __________________ Cheers, Ryan

03-23-2009, 08:55 AM	#5
firebob Drives: 09 yaris Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road Posts: 236	I did not think that the 09 Yaris had the transponders in the keys. It was looked up when I had some keys made. I use a key that dose not have any plastic or rubber on it and it works just fine. __________________ 09, 3 door lift back, auto. I live on the road with my wife. We travel as needed for our work and drive up to 4,500 miles in a bad week.

03-23-2009, 09:10 AM	#8
firebob Drives: 09 yaris Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road Posts: 236	Ok I see now. I do not have the power package. __________________ 09, 3 door lift back, auto. I live on the road with my wife. We travel as needed for our work and drive up to 4,500 miles in a bad week.

03-23-2009, 08:39 AM	#3
Lafiro Drives: 06 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 694	What!????????

03-23-2009, 09:01 AM	#7
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	all new cars sold in Canada since 2008 must be equipped with a transponder key. Jambo101: one of the other key is a master key without remote. one is a valet key that will not open the trunk. the trunk can be locked by using a master key and turning LEFT (opposite direction than opening)

03-23-2009, 06:20 PM	#9
YarisSedan Drives: 08 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 2,773	Engine will try to start when fuel is disabled. Just wont start. Thats why it feels like its trying to turn over. Being engine is immoblized. Since it has a immobilizer? That immobilizes the engine but cutting off the fuel to prevent theft. Incase someone tries to steal the car and doesnt have the key that is keyed to the ignition. Which is why you have to buy the special key from the dealer have them key and code it to your ignition for it to work. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3210549

03-23-2009, 06:32 PM	#10
rningonfumes Drives: Yaris Sedan 5MT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 865	I think it's a matter of the countries. I know Canada gets some goodies we here in the states don't-- back then at least, don't know about 2009 cars. __________________

03-23-2009, 08:21 PM	#11
jambo101 Drives: yaris 08 sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 1,286	Guess i got chips in the keys..Whats a dealer gonna charge me for a spare key??

03-24-2009, 02:59 PM	#14
kustom play pink wheels are cool View User's Garage Drives: 07 liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,407	yea they are expensive im kinda glad i dont have that

03-24-2009, 03:27 PM	#15
CTScott ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 09 5dr LB, 2x 08 3dr LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA, CT Posts: 13,460	Most automotive locksmiths will have the equipment to program a new transponder key, and will typically charge far less than a dealer. The uncut transponder keys for the Yaris are about $30, plus cutting and programming. Dealer list for the key is about $50, but the one that I checked with wanted over $100 including cutting and programming. The part number for the 08 and 09 Yaris transponder keys is: 89785-60160.

03-24-2009, 05:37 PM	#16
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	cscott, did you check the one with the remote??

03-25-2009, 09:37 AM	#18
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	thanks. it's quite a bit cheaper without a transponder chip in the remote/key.

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