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Also since corn is so cheap, high fructose corn syrup is so cheap that it is cheaper to buy sweet junk food/soda than healthier foods. If we either got rid of subsidies or subsidies healthy fruits/vegetables, our country would be a lot healthier and our cars would run better. (However some farmers would go under) |
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09-13-2010, 01:55 PM | #39 | |
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But, "farmers subsities" and "farmers would go under"? You meant "the few agribusiness giants"? The traditional" American farmer had gone under years ago... I've always respected this article several years back from this highly regarded and reputable research source in Canada... Global Research: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...tionName=about Article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=6933 Cheers!
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09-13-2010, 03:09 PM | #40 |
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In general this is true. However, the raise of farmer's markets and similar things have been good for family farms.
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09-14-2010, 04:37 PM | #41 |
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UPDATE – Broke 50 MPG again, but... Partial Fill... did not count!
This morning I filled my tank (56 miles into the 5th bar) at the1/2 tank reading. I generally fill up when the tank is closer to “empty” at the 7th bar (1/4) or the beginning of the last flashing 8th bar (1/8). But, I decided to do a partial fill, to make sure I get the last of the Non-Ethanol gas at the station. Non-Ethanol gas will be phased out later this week or next week at the station I regularly fill-up my car.
I was able to get 53.034 MPG... my highest MPG to date. Although, this was my first partial fill recorded (1/2 bar present with 374 miles traveled) on the tank, it looks like I would have been on the track to break 50 MPG with a complete full fill. I see from my records that when the bar drops to 1/2 tank (5th bar), I average 289 miles from my fills. When I fill up at the “empty” tank mark, I average 486 miles. Obviously, the gauge properties of the Yaris are that the first half tank you get more miles than the second half tank. Though, the difference after calculating is only 92 miles on average of my fills... Then hypothetically, even if I filled up the tank when it was “empty” and say getting a very makeable 60 miles for the 6th and 7th bars. The mileage would come out to be an average of 42.857 MPG for those last two bars (120/2.8gallons). With this in mind, a complete full fill would be: 50.142 MPG Tank total: 494 miles Fuel used: 9.852 gallons MPG: 50.142 I think the 42.857 MPG for the last two bars is very maintainable figure for me. I’m confident that I would have broken the 50 MPG barrier if I filled up when the tank was “empty”... The partial fill that I calculated to 53.034 MPG does not count for my records, since I calculate from full fill-ups. Cheers! Actual Partial Fill: Gas Tank mile increments (non-ethanol gas used): 1st Bar drop (8/8) > 85 mi (85) 2nd Bar drop (7/8) > 87 mi (172) 3rd Bar drop (3/4) > 65 mi (237) 4th Bar drop (5/8) > 81 mi (318) 5th Bar drop (1/2) > 56 mi (374) Note: Bar was still showing 6th Bar drop (3/8) > 0 7th Bar drop (1/4) > 0 8th Bar drop (1/8) > 0 Tank total: 374 miles Fuel used: 7.052 gallons MPG: 53.034
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09-20-2010, 08:14 PM | #42 |
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don't forget that alcohol evaporates readily. As you pump it in you will loose some. That stuff doesn't hold well in the evap canister...more loss.
I had a tank full once w/ the Crown Vic at 21 mpg or so. Not easy to do. A funny thing about the ethanol for the gasoline...special hybrid corn,needs a petroleum fertilizer. Gov't subsidized but doesn't do much for the world. |
09-20-2010, 08:46 PM | #43 | |
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Don't get me started with the corporatocracy... that pretty much explains it... the government and the big agribusinesses working together to create a greener world! LOL! Profits baby... profits !!! Cheers!
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~ Mark ~ 2010 Yaris 3-Dr Liftback, 5-Speed Manual, P185/60R 15, Bayou Blue Pearl I Love my YARIS - (Click below to see Gaslog): Most miles Tank: 538 tank/10.148 gal = 53.015 MPG / Most MPG: 54.95 MPG (ethanol) 425 tank/7.73 gal "The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people." -- Frank Kent |
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09-21-2010, 12:24 AM | #44 |
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ooh, sounds like fun! Although i don't think the farmers have anything to do with it, the government and the idiots in hollywood just decided they needed more money for some silly reason, so they gave it to them. Prolly at gunpoint too, like the did to the banks more recently.
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09-21-2010, 12:30 AM | #45 |
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That mpg is starting to sound like my 1981 Starlet! It got 52. Wonder why they stopped making that little fart?
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09-21-2010, 12:43 PM | #46 | |
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Actually, subcompacts and HBs got really good gas mileage because there were less EPA regulations back then! Today, car manufactures have to work hard in producing more non-hybrid efficient cars. Cheers!
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~ Mark ~ 2010 Yaris 3-Dr Liftback, 5-Speed Manual, P185/60R 15, Bayou Blue Pearl I Love my YARIS - (Click below to see Gaslog): Most miles Tank: 538 tank/10.148 gal = 53.015 MPG / Most MPG: 54.95 MPG (ethanol) 425 tank/7.73 gal "The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people." -- Frank Kent |
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09-22-2010, 12:17 PM | #47 |
The lighter weight and smaller size of the cars in the 80s is also a contributing factor. There are people driving Civic VX and Geo Metros that get in the 50s.
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09-23-2010, 12:45 PM | #48 | |
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Cheers!
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~ Mark ~ 2010 Yaris 3-Dr Liftback, 5-Speed Manual, P185/60R 15, Bayou Blue Pearl I Love my YARIS - (Click below to see Gaslog): Most miles Tank: 538 tank/10.148 gal = 53.015 MPG / Most MPG: 54.95 MPG (ethanol) 425 tank/7.73 gal "The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people." -- Frank Kent |
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09-23-2010, 02:12 PM | #49 |
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Don't forget the old dodge colt. Could get mid 50's gas mileage, but if you hit a dog, you died.
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09-23-2010, 07:06 PM | #50 | |
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I actually had an old Colt (1989)... sixth generation! It was the one with slanted eyes... the Mitsubishi Mirage... 1989-1992. I got mid to upper 40's on mine. I think the fourth and fifth generations you could get well into the 50's... they were more square, though. Cheers!
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~ Mark ~ 2010 Yaris 3-Dr Liftback, 5-Speed Manual, P185/60R 15, Bayou Blue Pearl I Love my YARIS - (Click below to see Gaslog): Most miles Tank: 538 tank/10.148 gal = 53.015 MPG / Most MPG: 54.95 MPG (ethanol) 425 tank/7.73 gal "The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people." -- Frank Kent |
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10-01-2010, 11:12 AM | #51 |
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49.8 mpg
Earlier this morning I filled up. Came out to 49.842 MPG... No trips, just driving my country roads to work (at small city). Cheers! Gas Tank mile increments (non-ethanol gas used): 1st Bar drop (8/8) > 95 mi (95) 2nd Bar drop (7/8) > 73mi (168) 3rd Bar drop (3/4) > 70 mi (238) 4th Bar drop (5/8) > 70 mi (308) 5th Bar drop (1/2) > 50 mi (358) 6th Bar drop (3/8) > 65 mi (423) 7th Bar drop (1/4) > 37 mi (460) 8th Bar drop (1/8) > 0 Tank total: 460 miles Fuel used: 9.229 gallons MPG: 49.842
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10-20-2010, 06:15 PM | #52 |
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Lower air pressure in the rear to help avoid brake lock-up, handle better. I know a few people that had the 1980's Honda CRX. Most claimed 35 or more mpg at 75 mph.
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10-25-2010, 11:27 AM | #53 |
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I was bragging up my new (to me, '08) Yaris today to a buddy with a Metro, and he at one point said driven hard and loaded with his carpenter tools, (NO hypermile techniques, no scan gauge, regular air pressure in the tires etc) he gets 44 mpg combined. "Yeah, but I got airbags, and it's a Toyota", was my comeback!
I like to think the Yaris is a Metro for the 21 st century, and I mean that as a compliment to the Yaris. A big difference in ride comfort/quality of course, if they had kept making and improving the Metro it'd probably be very like the Yaris is now. |
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