Spring Stiffeners

[cali yaris]

The camber bolts I sell are lobed, so you can set and re-set camber as you wish from +1.75 to -1.75. Slotting the holes works too if you're game to mod the suspension with that method. Toyota also makes other camber bolts that set camber to specific numbers; but they aren't adjustable.

[Herbicidal]

*** Bringing back an old thread. *** I have the TRD springs and stock shocks, after my sound deadening project and installing a 10" sub with enclosure, the back end is riding lower than I would like due to the extra weight. Spring spacers sound like a viable option to bring the rear end back up a little.

How can I tell what size spacer I need to get for the TRD springs?

Thanks!

[derickveliz2]

Hi Herb,
nice to see you again!

Loren and Garm suggested me tu use RING-TYPE COIL SPRING STABILIZER





I can't say anything bad about them they work GREAT!!!

Herb 1 size fits all

LINK

Remember to buy 2

Derick

[Herbicidal]

Thanks Derick! You too! I wasn't sure about the one size fits all part. Do you recall how much it lifted up the rear end once installed?

I think I will order up a pair.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Herbicidal

Thanks Derick! You too! I wasn't sure about the one size fits all part. Do you recall how much it lifted up the rear end once installed?

I think I will order up a pair.

You are welcome!

I would say about 3/8"

To my surprise handling improved a lot. What Loren told me is that the spring rate will raise and it did! for good


I also recommend a Camber kit, not only looks cool but man you can tell the difference in corners and my favorite at ramps.


These are not so good pictures to show the difference but here we go anyway:

Before RING-TYPE COIL SPRING STABILIZER





After RING-TYPE COIL SPRING STABILIZER + Camber Kit



Derick

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[Herbicidal]

OK, I got 'em. Now, where do I place them in the coil spring? Close to the body or close to the road? Somewhere in the middle? I think my TRD springs have the large end up top, almost like they are upside down. Can I just jack up the car (place jack stands for safety) so the springs are 'unloaded' then insert the spacer between the coils? I'll take before and after measurements too.

Thanks!

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Herbicidal

OK, I got 'em. Now, where do I place them in the coil spring? Close to the body or close to the road? Somewhere in the middle? I think my TRD springs have the large end up top, almost like they are upside down. Can I just jack up the car (place jack stands for safety) so the springs are 'unloaded' then insert the spacer between the coils? I'll take before and after measurements too.

Thanks!

Jack up your car (place jack stands for safety) so the springs are 'unloaded' then insert the spacer between the coils AT THE BOTTOM. Push them as much as possible Look at this photo>




Then go for a ride you will experience a much better ride and even better at corners and specially at highway speeds, the feeling is GOOD.
I'm actually getting 2 more for the front.

PS. I now lucky you guys don't have the terrible winter issues around here!

[derickveliz2]

PS... use grease to help them go as far as possible!

[Herbicidal]

Thanks Derick, I'll try that tomorrow. Yes, no sand or salt for our roads during winter. Just wet. Our elevation where I live in the Sacramento Valley is only like 180' above sea level, so we get a dusting of snow like once every 10 years!

[derickveliz2]

Bad news for these rubber inserts... with less than 5K miles



Thoughts?

[yarrr]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Thoughts?

That they are garbage, and you're lucky they didn't fail at high speed on a turn.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by yarrr

That they are garbage, and you're lucky they didn't fail at high speed on a turn.

I don't think any thing would happen I've been driving with them like that for a couple of weeks, I notice the suspension getting softer. (less spring rate)

The rubber is too soft and I squished them in too much.

[cali yaris]

Bad news for these rubber inserts... with less than 5K miles

Those are so cheap to buy, that's having to replace them what, maybe twice a year? To fix a problem you had, and with horrible roads as you say.

I say, not so bad. Not everyone needs these.

[cali yaris]

you're lucky they didn't fail at high speed on a turn.

Why? then he would just have springs, right?

[derickveliz2]

I got the Deep Groove Spring Rubber - 5/5.5" Black Hard

more money but the compound it's harder. my ride is much better (sportier) I still would like more spring rate so I can put my 90 pound woofer box in the trunk and not have my car feel so heavy in the rear, how are does new Micro Image springs? (just for the rear)


D.

[why?]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

I got the Deep Groove Spring Rubber - 5/5.5" Black Hard

more money but the compound it's harder. my ride is much better (sportier) I still would like more spring rate so I can put my 90 pound woofer box in the trunk and not have my car feel so heavy in the rear, how are does new Micro Image springs? (just for the rear)


D.

Wow those are expensive, let us know how they are, and how good they are.

Using MI springs might work. The rears are 3k, compared to 2.6 for the NF, however the drop is 1.1" for the NF compared to 1.75" drop for MI, so that might look really strange.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by why?

Wow those are expensive, let us know how they are, and how good they are.

Using MI springs might work. The rears are 3k, compared to 2.6 for the NF, however the drop is 1.1" for the NF compared to 1.75" drop for MI, so that might look really strange.

So far the spring rate is much stiffer than before, so they are working. Quality they are like a very hard polyurethane material and the old ones are like soft rubber.

That's why I was thinking on the MI springs 3K, I know about the drop issue?

Looks like coilovers could resolve my issues

D.

[cali yaris]

^ yeah, that will pretty much give you all the adjustability you could want.

Those spring spacers look a lot better, good find.