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Old 06-04-2007, 10:59 AM   #1
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If it does it again, I will have it checked.. hope it doesnt though.
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:54 PM   #2
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A friend of mine has a Mustang. When he gets near the rev limiter, the engine light flashes. If you are too close for too long, at will stay on and if you hit the rev limiter, engine light stays on.

His Dad has got some type of diagnostic head made by snapon. It didn't show the code (rev limiter) even with the engine light still on. When he took it in, he was warned about abusing the engine and further abuse, may void the warranty. It seems that those type of codes that may report abuse are secret and you must have the right diagnostic head to read them.

I can not confirm or deny.. This is just what I was told.
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Old 06-04-2007, 06:05 PM   #3
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You should chek that out cause I really rev mine hard everyday and no check engine light comes on.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:26 AM   #4
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You should chek that out cause I really rev mine hard everyday and no check engine light comes on.
you must be doing it on neutral and it makes it a different story
unless you ship your car somewhere outta Puerto Rico to race it on an open road.........
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:13 AM   #5
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you must be doing it on neutral and it makes it a different story
unless you ship your car somewhere outta Puerto Rico to race it on an open road.........
U sure haven't visit Puerto Rico jajaja you don't need an open road to rev hard. Here its all about small roads, curves and mountains and I asure you you can rev your car up to 6,500 on 1st 2nd and 3rd goin around places here
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:27 AM   #6
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:55 PM   #7
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A friend of mine has a Mustang. When he gets near the rev limiter, the engine light flashes. If you are too close for too long, at will stay on and if you hit the rev limiter, engine light stays on.

His Dad has got some type of diagnostic head made by snapon. It didn't show the code (rev limiter) even with the engine light still on. When he took it in, he was warned about abusing the engine and further abuse, may void the warranty. It seems that those type of codes that may report abuse are secret and you must have the right diagnostic head to read them.

I can not confirm or deny.. This is just what I was told.
yes it could store it as a temp code. where it wont sometimes read on a generic scan tool. but on a manufacturer specific scan tool the code will be listed in a seperate "history" or "temporary"section. and it may store the freeze frame data as well, which will inform the tech what the car was doing at the time... rpm, coolant temp, wheel speed, fuel trim, ect... for example, my mac tools generic scan tool doesnt always show me the same number of the codes that my honda scan tool will. esp codes saved in the temp folder. basically when the ecu decides that the car is back to normal conditions it can turn off the light after i believe 35 to 80 drive cycles depending if its a misfire code or not. however even though the light is off it may keep the code in the temp file for a longer time which can be accessed by the manuf. scan tool. hope this makes sense...
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:54 AM   #8
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A friend of mine has a Mustang. When he gets near the rev limiter, the engine light flashes. If you are too close for too long, at will stay on and if you hit the rev limiter, engine light stays on.

His Dad has got some type of diagnostic head made by snapon. It didn't show the code (rev limiter) even with the engine light still on. When he took it in, he was warned about abusing the engine and further abuse, may void the warranty. It seems that those type of codes that may report abuse are secret and you must have the right diagnostic head to read them.

I can not confirm or deny.. This is just what I was told.
HA! Watch out! The Man's got his eye on you!

That would make sense though. I can understand voiding the warranty from "abuse". Economy cars weren't designed for racing, thus treating it like a race car could naturally result in some problems that wouldn't have arisen if it was used under normal circumstances. Better slow down there, Speedy!

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Old 06-04-2007, 11:24 PM   #9
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I noticed in the owners manual that the car has an EDR system. That system would record information before an "event".
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:18 AM   #10
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:13 PM   #11
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that would kill me to do something like that to my car. my car will never see 6000rpm. I did have it 70mph in 3thd gear once didn't notice the rpm
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:18 PM   #12
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VW Jetta's have a safety feature (well for the manufacturer anyway) When the car hits its rev-limiter multiple times it would log a engine warranty void code within the computer. It would never show up as a check engine light. So be warned if anything happens it is all on you.
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Then whats the point of a rev-limiter? You might as well just let it run willy-nilly. Kind of lame.

BTW, does it say anywhere in the warrenty about a warrenty void, due to hitting the rev-limiter?
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:11 AM   #14
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Then whats the point of a rev-limiter? You might as well just let it run willy-nilly. Kind of lame.

BTW, does it say anywhere in the warrenty about a warrenty void, due to hitting the rev-limiter?
rev-limitier does what its name describes it limits rev during acceleration. however. if you dump the trans into 1st while driving at 4000 rpm in 4th theres not much that can stop that force from blowing up your motor. most people blow-up thier motor (non-turbo) when they misshift into a lower gear. not during regular up-shifting
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:56 AM   #15
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Then whats the point of a rev-limiter? You might as well just let it run willy-nilly. Kind of lame.
Some of these post hurt my head. A rev-limiter limits revs, not stupidity... Do you run your car into walls because it has airbags? Do you risk sex with an infected person because you have condoms? It's a LIMITER, not a shift light...

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Old 08-21-2007, 12:39 AM   #16
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Some of these post hurt my head. A rev-limiter limits revs, not stupidity... Do you run your car into walls because it has airbags? Do you risk sex with an infected person because you have condoms? It's a LIMITER, not a shift light...

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You're missing the point.

I'm saying, why have a rev limiter where its at, when running into it will void warrenty? Why dosen't Toyota just set the rev limit low, so when you hit it nothing will happen? Or why have it at all? If there is a recorder that'll void your warrenty, that'll have the same effect if your engine blows up. You'll be left shit out of luck.

The air bag anology isn't the same as the rev limiter. Hitting the rev limiter dosen't require a wall. Why the hell would an engine create all of its power so close to the rev-limiter? How would you gain all of the 8.whater (or whatever the 0-60 speed is) by not reving to where the power is? Everyone should create big bore, big stroke engines, so going near the rev-limiter would be worthless. Not to mention the non s models do not have a tach, so figureing out where you're at isn't easy for the new driver..

My X-Runner dosen't have much top end power. Well, it does, but I've got oodles of torque in the low end, so I wouldn't really have to rev so high. Wouldn't that be the solution to a rev-limit warrenty void?

If you think that hitting a simple rev limiter is SUCH a risk, to be compared to condoms, and air bags, then you really need to get some of your values straight.

... and that picture wasn't called for.
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You're missing the point.

I'm saying, why have a rev limiter where its at, when running into it will void warrenty? Why dosen't Toyota just set the rev limit low, so when you hit it nothing will happen? Or why have it at all? If there is a recorder that'll void your warrenty, that'll have the same effect if your engine blows up. You'll be left shit out of luck.

The air bag anology isn't the same as the rev limiter. Hitting the rev limiter dosen't require a wall. Why the hell would an engine create all of its power so close to the rev-limiter? How would you gain all of the 8.whater (or whatever the 0-60 speed is) by not reving to where the power is? Everyone should create big bore, big stroke engines, so going near the rev-limiter would be worthless. Not to mention the non s models do not have a tach, so figureing out where you're at isn't easy for the new driver..

My X-Runner dosen't have much top end power. Well, it does, but I've got oodles of torque in the low end, so I wouldn't really have to rev so high. Wouldn't that be the solution to a rev-limit warrenty void?

If you think that hitting a simple rev limiter is SUCH a risk, to be compared to condoms, and air bags, then you really need to get some of your values straight.

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I'm missing the point? My point is that there is NO reason to be that close to the rev limiter. Unless my Yaris is different than your Yaris, there is a definite
drop-off-point in power as the revs top out, so shift there. There is never a reason to be buzzing the rev-limiter for extended periods. Like I said, it's a rev-limiter, not a stupidity limiter...

The engine develops all of it's power at high revs because that is how it is designed. Again, when you feel the drop in power, shift. The max shift point does not change from day to day, try to remember about what it feels like, and SHIFT! If the Yaris made it's power low in the revs, it wouldn't get close to the same gas mileage, which is the basic point of the car.

What the hell is the "8.whater"?

If a manufacturer warranty's your product against defects, shouldn't they be able to monitor it for defects. That is what this "rev-limiter recorder" does, it monitors defects in the DRIVER. Why should the manufacturer be responsible for your abuse?

As for my values, I'm thinking mine sound pretty good. I don't do stupid stuff just because I have safety equipment...

...and the picture was funny

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