Short throw shifters? - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Black Yaris · 12-30-2006, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmellyTofu

Don't know about you guys, I've got the TRD short shift. I compared the height of them both and they were spot on the same height plus it was easy to fit when I did it.

Where would one purchase one of these TRD Short Shifters?

SmellyTofu · 12-31-2006, 05:24 PM

Tried TRD USA?

ChinoCharles · 12-31-2006, 11:13 PM

There is no TRD short shifter for the USDM Yaris. There is a JDM short shifter that doesn't fit, though.

eco · 01-01-2007, 05:31 AM

I say why buy a new shifter,just chop off what ever you dont want,just like me,Charles and Spades did,even though I have an auto,it still feels/looks much better.And when I would lay down in my car my knee would always hit the knob,no problem now.

SmellyTofu · 01-01-2007, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by eco

I say why buy a new shifter,just chop off what ever you dont want,just like me,Charles and Spades did,even though I have an auto,it still feels/looks much better.And when I would lay down in my car my knee would always hit the knob,no problem now.

Few things. Shift effort, lack of preciseness between shifts and the need to lean further to grab a gear. As for "cutting" an automatic lever.. well, whatever floats your boat. More power to you man! Woo!

Why buy new springs when you can just chop them? Why buy cheap brand tyres? Why not drill holes in the exhaust for a better exhaust note? Why dim your headlights with tinted globes?*

Chino, sorry can't help you then. I drive a RHD Yaris.

* Please don't do this

Spades · 01-01-2007, 01:24 PM

why did i chop it? for a few reasons...first, i didnt want to take the shifter assembly apart. two, i dont have the money, i need to spend that money on new tires(the ones i have right now are oversized,long story). and three, it does actually work.

I dont have to lean any further forward to shift and its just as precise as the factory shifter. keep in mind ANY short throw shifter on the market will normally have a shorter height shifter than the stock unit. the only differance is that the space from side to side on short throw shifters is less...so you will find untill you learn to control that short throw shifter you will often be popping what you thought was 3rd and was actually 5th.the do have a little less of a throw forward to back than a chopped shifter, so the leverage is better, but otherwise, thats about it. I know, my last car had a B&M short throw shifter.

so, maybe its not as good as a true short throw shifter, but its not the same as cutting your springs so please dont put me in that catagory. thanks.

bladesmith6 · 01-03-2007, 10:22 AM

Has anyone tried the xa short shifters you can find on ebay? The mounting points look the same and it looks very very close to the JDM vitz quickshifter, I might give it a try for $50 unless someone knows that it definitely won't fit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-06...spagenameZWDVW

eco · 01-03-2007, 11:53 AM

Well Ibeleive a chopped auto shifter looks alot better,and like I said it would hit my knee,but I do find it easierr to shift,I know I shoul have less leverage,but it is easier now.And just staight chopping springs dosnt give you a certain spring rate,but I see where your going.

spkrman · 01-03-2007, 07:23 PM

after cutting the shifter down, how do you rescrew on the knob?

My knee hits it, and sometimes passengers knees can hit it... and rarely if they are movin around too much they can knock it from D to 3... I'd like to make it a liiiiiiitle lower if possible.

johnnyfive · 01-03-2007, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spkrman

after cutting the shifter down, how do you rescrew on the knob?

My knee hits it, and sometimes passengers knees can hit it... and rarely if they are movin around too much they can knock it from D to 3... I'd like to make it a liiiiiiitle lower if possible.

could replace the knob with one of the set screw type knobs, or you could just re-cut the threads.

d2dailly · 01-04-2007, 09:05 AM

what they did was take the shifter out and cut a peice out and reweld the threaded part back on as far as i know

ChinoCharles · 01-04-2007, 12:35 PM

Before and after...

100530532_320891697_0.jpg 100531169_320893837_0.jpg

In the first picture you can see the sharpie mark where the first cut was made. The second was made at that little beveled spot that held the ring before. We then took the two pieces left over and i sat in the car and decided where I wanted to pitch it. Then it was just a matter of welding it together. Everything came out nice and straight.

Tell me, what is the difference between what I did and the TWM "short shifter" other than $90?

EDIT: Thats $125. Jesus... I mean, sure, its a lot stockier and probably feels more precise, but I'm sorry... can't justify spending that on a metal rod.

eTiMaGo · 01-04-2007, 12:46 PM

it's made in canada, man! fortified with maple syrup!

AFAIK the bottom part of the rod is also different, a bit longer, I think, so that the throw can be even shorter without reducing the height of the top part so much.

Spades · 01-04-2007, 10:43 PM

yeah, true short shifters reduce the travel needed to put the gear from 1 to 2 shifts, but they also reduce the throw from side to side, such as the space from 2nd to 3rd shifts.

so, technically there is a differance between our "custom" short throws and ones purchased...however...cutting your shifter is NOTHING like chopping the springs on your car, cause shortening your shifter has no negative affects on the cars relability or performance, like oh, say, like cutting your cars springs. i think that guy just forgot to take his morning midol.

forpinks · 01-08-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

whee hee just received mine today... Instructions look a bit daunting though, gonna have to raid my friend's tool shelf, I doubt my trusty swiss army knife will handle the job...

as for the stick itself, it looks more like a knobbly mini nightstick for a midget cop

NICE RIMS MAN!

01-01-2007, 01:24 PM	#24
Spades The Hated One View User's Garage Drives: 07 White Manual Sedan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon,USA Posts: 390	why did i chop it? for a few reasons...first, i didnt want to take the shifter assembly apart. two, i dont have the money, i need to spend that money on new tires(the ones i have right now are oversized,long story). and three, it does actually work. I dont have to lean any further forward to shift and its just as precise as the factory shifter. keep in mind ANY short throw shifter on the market will normally have a shorter height shifter than the stock unit. the only differance is that the space from side to side on short throw shifters is less...so you will find untill you learn to control that short throw shifter you will often be popping what you thought was 3rd and was actually 5th.the do have a little less of a throw forward to back than a chopped shifter, so the leverage is better, but otherwise, thats about it. I know, my last car had a B&M short throw shifter. so, maybe its not as good as a true short throw shifter, but its not the same as cutting your springs so please dont put me in that catagory. thanks. __________________

01-04-2007, 12:46 PM	#31
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	it's made in canada, man! fortified with maple syrup! AFAIK the bottom part of the rod is also different, a bit longer, I think, so that the throw can be even shorter without reducing the height of the top part so much. __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

01-04-2007, 10:43 PM	#32
Spades The Hated One View User's Garage Drives: 07 White Manual Sedan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon,USA Posts: 390	yeah, true short shifters reduce the travel needed to put the gear from 1 to 2 shifts, but they also reduce the throw from side to side, such as the space from 2nd to 3rd shifts. so, technically there is a differance between our "custom" short throws and ones purchased...however...cutting your shifter is NOTHING like chopping the springs on your car, cause shortening your shifter has no negative affects on the cars relability or performance, like oh, say, like cutting your cars springs. i think that guy just forgot to take his morning midol. __________________

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12-31-2006, 05:24 PM	#20
SmellyTofu 好多人& Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 264	Tried TRD USA?

12-31-2006, 11:13 PM	#21
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	There is no TRD short shifter for the USDM Yaris. There is a JDM short shifter that doesn't fit, though.

01-01-2007, 05:31 AM	#22
eco Drives: 2007 Black Yaris sedan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 884	I say why buy a new shifter,just chop off what ever you dont want,just like me,Charles and Spades did,even though I have an auto,it still feels/looks much better.And when I would lay down in my car my knee would always hit the knob,no problem now.

01-03-2007, 10:22 AM	#25
bladesmith6 View User's Garage Drives: 2007 yaris HB Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 394	Has anyone tried the xa short shifters you can find on ebay? The mounting points look the same and it looks very very close to the JDM vitz quickshifter, I might give it a try for $50 unless someone knows that it definitely won't fit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-06...spagenameZWDVW

01-03-2007, 11:53 AM	#26
eco Drives: 2007 Black Yaris sedan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 884	Well Ibeleive a chopped auto shifter looks alot better,and like I said it would hit my knee,but I do find it easierr to shift,I know I shoul have less leverage,but it is easier now.And just staight chopping springs dosnt give you a certain spring rate,but I see where your going.

01-03-2007, 07:23 PM	#27
spkrman Banned View User's Garage Drives: 1 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 2 Posts: 1,476	after cutting the shifter down, how do you rescrew on the knob? My knee hits it, and sometimes passengers knees can hit it... and rarely if they are movin around too much they can knock it from D to 3... I'd like to make it a liiiiiiitle lower if possible.

01-04-2007, 09:05 AM	#29
d2dailly Roar? Drives: 07 White LB Yaris Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 185	what they did was take the shifter out and cut a peice out and reweld the threaded part back on as far as i know

01-04-2007, 12:35 PM	#30
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Before and after... 100530532_320891697_0.jpg 100531169_320893837_0.jpg In the first picture you can see the sharpie mark where the first cut was made. The second was made at that little beveled spot that held the ring before. We then took the two pieces left over and i sat in the car and decided where I wanted to pitch it. Then it was just a matter of welding it together. Everything came out nice and straight. Tell me, what is the difference between what I did and the TWM "short shifter" other than $90? EDIT: Thats $125. Jesus... I mean, sure, its a lot stockier and probably feels more precise, but I'm sorry... can't justify spending that on a metal rod.