2007 Yaris hatchback wrecked...odds of it getting totaled? Details inside - Toyota Yaris Forums

Josh_G · 11-25-2008, 10:32 AM

Hey all,

Sadly as my first post here is pretty much about the death of my Yaris, at least I think so. Friday my wife and I were driving to work (carpooling) and as we came around a corner an 18-wheeler was stopped with their blinkers on in the oncoming lane of traffic (stuck coming up a small hill). It surprised my wife as it was still dark and snowy, she started to brake and we slide off the road and into a DOT guardrail. We were going probably no faster than 25 or 30 mph when we hit.

The guardrail hit the Yaris squarely in the front and I mean squarely. The center of it hit the center of the front of the car about dead center in the Toyota logo. Long story short, the car has been towed to a garage pending Allstate insurance checking it out.

I don't have any pictures I can upload at the moment, but I was hoping that I could describe the damage enough for people to give their opinion on whether or not it will be totaled.

First off, nothing seems to be damaged past the front wheels, no windows broken, doors open and close fine, etc. Even the front wheels seem to still have their bounce like the suspension isn't damaged. Naturally the air bags went off

The damage is pretty much entirely in the engine compartment, page 113 in the repair manual shows pretty well the damaged area. The headlights work, but are bulging out. Who knows where the engine is hiding because the radiator is pretty well back past where the engine is suppose to be. But it is still in there somewhere. There is no damage in the passager area beyond a where the seatbelts popped the plastic off the inside past the doors.

I know little about the inner working of a car, but my first reaction was that the car is a total loss. But given how new the car is I have my doubts.

Even with my limited knowledge I feel like the engine compartment is completely gone, and most likely everything in it would have to be replaced.

So if anyone read all of that and wants to throw in their opinion feel free. I can answer any questions if needed. And I probably could get some pictures eventually.

Thanks

Josh

Tamago · 11-25-2008, 10:59 AM

if you damaged the core support and the hood and fenders, you're looking at a $7000 bill.. depends where you take it..
airbags should be another $2000 ?

the car's probably worth $10,000 give or take..

you're on the bleeding edge.. but yeah pictures would help

CTScott · 11-25-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh_G

Hey all,

Sadly as my first post here is pretty much about the death of my Yaris, at least I think so. Friday my wife and I were driving to work (carpooling) and as we came around a corner an 18-wheeler was stopped with their blinkers on in the oncoming lane of traffic (stuck coming up a small hill). It surprised my wife as it was still dark and snowy, she started to brake and we slide off the road and into a DOT guardrail. We were going probably no faster than 25 or 30 mph when we hit.

The guardrail hit the Yaris squarely in the front and I mean squarely. The center of it hit the center of the front of the car about dead center in the Toyota logo. Long story short, the car has been towed to a garage pending Allstate insurance checking it out.

I don't have any pictures I can upload at the moment, but I was hoping that I could describe the damage enough for people to give their opinion on whether or not it will be totaled.

First off, nothing seems to be damaged past the front wheels, no windows broken, doors open and close fine, etc. Even the front wheels seem to still have their bounce like the suspension isn't damaged. Naturally the air bags went off

The damage is pretty much entirely in the engine compartment, page 113 in the repair manual shows pretty well the damaged area. The headlights work, but are bulging out. Who knows where the engine is hiding because the radiator is pretty well back past where the engine is suppose to be. But it is still in there somewhere. There is no damage in the passager area beyond a where the seatbelts popped the plastic off the inside past the doors.

I know little about the inner working of a car, but my first reaction was that the car is a total loss. But given how new the car is I have my doubts.

Even with my limited knowledge I feel like the engine compartment is completely gone, and most likely everything in it would have to be replaced.

So if anyone read all of that and wants to throw in their opinion feel free. I can answer any questions if needed. And I probably could get some pictures eventually.

Thanks

Josh

People who have been through the same can answer better than I, but being a low price tag car and with both airbags having deployed I would bet on it being a total.

On a positive note - I like hearing stories of people walking away without injury from accidents in the Yaris...

TheSilkySmooth · 11-25-2008, 12:43 PM

Good you were unhurt - no ABS I guess. I had a rear lock on me and steer athe car. You may want to explore a lawsuit. It seem the yaris has rear brakes prone to locking up and causing swerving. Ok, From what you describe - this is Salvage - Unrepairable. Now you can go buy a "good" car like a Suzuki SX4 with AWD for 14K.

Sonjas Bro

TheSilkySmooth · 11-25-2008, 12:44 PM

PIC please - I love the devastation!

TheSilkySmooth · 11-25-2008, 12:45 PM

So the guardrail was moving and the Yaris was stopped. I do not understand ...

Josh_G · 11-25-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

So the guardrail was moving and the Yaris was stopped. I do not understand ...

I wish! Hitting another car would have caused less damage then that guardrail, at least another car would have absorbed some of the damage and moved. The guardrail just sent all the damage right back at the Yaris, which is why it was so bad for such a low speed accident.

I will get some pictures soon though, hopefully this afternoon or tomorrow.

*tk-421* · 11-25-2008, 12:53 PM

AFAIK, if the engine got damaged in the accident, it is very likely that it will be considered totalled.
Good to know everyone's OK.

Are you thinking about getting a new Yaris?

Tamago · 11-25-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tk-421

Are you thinking about getting a new Yaris?

one with ABS?

Josh_G · 11-25-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tk-421

AFAIK, if the engine got damaged in the accident, it is very likely that it will be considered totalled.
Good to know everyone's OK.

Are you thinking about getting a new Yaris?

I'd like to get another Yaris, I know my wife would since she just loved that car. I'm basically hoping that with auto sales in the US being so poor lately, even Toyota's, that I could score a good deal with the money I get from the totaled Yaris. Basically, I still owe a couple thousand on the Yaris so I thought about calling the dealer that I bought the original Yaris from and see if something could be worked out. Kinda like the "pay off your trade no matter how much you owe.." deal, except that my trade is totaled (haha).

Seriously though if the dealer really wants to move a vehicle I could see them going for it, they 'forgive' the debt that I owe them, take the money I get from the totaled Yaris and some extra from me, then I get a new Yaris. That's getting ahead of myself though.

And it wasn't a ABS (or lack of) problem, just snowy roads, a slight hill, and poor timing with the brakes. My wife didn't slam the brakes, or even brake hard. We wrecked on the same hill that the 18 wheeler was stuck on, just that they were going uphill and we were going downhill.

PaidTimeOff · 11-25-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

Now you can go buy a "good" car like a Suzuki SX4 with AWD for 14K.

Sonjas Bro

But then why would he want to downgrade from a "great" car to a "good" car?

eric81 · 11-26-2008, 01:34 AM

Weren't you in a wreck in a Yaris right before the hack? You have some seriously bad luck if you did. I remember you from before the hack, but not exactly what your posts were about. Nice person, as I remember though. (I used to be ergatzke)

Josh_G · 12-01-2008, 11:14 AM

Just as an update, the Yaris is getting towed to a Toyota dealer today for the final run through to determine if the car will be totaled or not. I couldn't get any pictures since the tow yard was closed for the Thanksgiving holiday.

So far the Allstate guy that looked at the car as the repairs at $6,400 with about $1500 to $2k more before the car would be totaled. He wanted to get the Yaris up on a lift to check out the underside of the car before signing off on the repairs. But I don't think the dealer will find anything new given how we hit the guardrail.

Bob_VT · 12-01-2008, 10:14 PM

Well not being totaled maight be better.

If you owed money on the car and depending on how much...... that's where GAP insurance comes into play. If they repair it and you do not feel comfortable with the car then trade it in.

Some dealers will accept a smashed up trade and the insurance check applied to a new car since a dealers body shop can repair it cheaper.

Bottom line.... no one hurt!

TheSilkySmooth · 12-02-2008, 12:24 PM

You have to pay for guardrail also - may cost MORE than car!
This is no joke - the state will make you pay for property damage ...

TheSilkySmooth · 12-02-2008, 12:26 PM

Josh- DONT go back to dealer they have NOTHING to do with your loan (unless buy here pay here) - the only deal you would make is a ROTTEN one ...

- the Bro

Chupacabra · 12-02-2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

You have to pay for guardrail also - may cost MORE than car!
This is no joke - the state will make you pay for property damage ...

That's why he has insurance. He'll never see a bill for that...

Josh_G · 12-10-2008, 08:21 AM

Just to throw an update out there:

So far my "final" repair estimate has changed three times, each time jumping upward, right now the Toyota dealer has the repair at $9556. My insurance company is giving the car a final review to determine it's pre-wreck value so they can decide whether to fix the car or not.

Which considering the insurance co. (Allstate) has already seen the car, what more can they do to determine a pre-wreck value?

But anyway, the $9556 is still under the 75% repair guideline in North Carolina since the blue book value is still over $13k. I already told Allstate that if the Yaris is totaled I expected to receive the value for an excellent car rating.

My gut feeling is that the dealer wants the car totaled so they can sell me a new car. The sales department has called me twice (both times yesterday) just to make sure I was OK, blah, blah, blah right?

What blew my mind is that I told the dealer I wasn't interested in getting a new car since I am in the process of building a house. The only way I would be interested would be if they wiped clean the debt I owed my current Yaris ($5.5K) and would take no more than my insurance settlement on my car.

Oddly enough they said that was very possible.

I should hear a final verdict from Allstate today or tomorrow so I'll probably update at least one more time.

If they do total the car it will be pretty interesting if the dealership holds to their story on selling me another car.

11-25-2008, 10:32 AM	#1
Josh_G Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Western NC Posts: 10	2007 Yaris hatchback wrecked...odds of it getting totaled? Details inside Hey all, Sadly as my first post here is pretty much about the death of my Yaris, at least I think so. Friday my wife and I were driving to work (carpooling) and as we came around a corner an 18-wheeler was stopped with their blinkers on in the oncoming lane of traffic (stuck coming up a small hill). It surprised my wife as it was still dark and snowy, she started to brake and we slide off the road and into a DOT guardrail. We were going probably no faster than 25 or 30 mph when we hit. The guardrail hit the Yaris squarely in the front and I mean squarely. The center of it hit the center of the front of the car about dead center in the Toyota logo. Long story short, the car has been towed to a garage pending Allstate insurance checking it out. I don't have any pictures I can upload at the moment, but I was hoping that I could describe the damage enough for people to give their opinion on whether or not it will be totaled. First off, nothing seems to be damaged past the front wheels, no windows broken, doors open and close fine, etc. Even the front wheels seem to still have their bounce like the suspension isn't damaged. Naturally the air bags went off The damage is pretty much entirely in the engine compartment, page 113 in the repair manual shows pretty well the damaged area. The headlights work, but are bulging out. Who knows where the engine is hiding because the radiator is pretty well back past where the engine is suppose to be. But it is still in there somewhere. There is no damage in the passager area beyond a where the seatbelts popped the plastic off the inside past the doors. I know little about the inner working of a car, but my first reaction was that the car is a total loss. But given how new the car is I have my doubts. Even with my limited knowledge I feel like the engine compartment is completely gone, and most likely everything in it would have to be replaced. So if anyone read all of that and wants to throw in their opinion feel free. I can answer any questions if needed. And I probably could get some pictures eventually. Thanks Josh

11-25-2008, 12:44 PM	#5
TheSilkySmooth Drives: 08 3DR 5M Bayou Blue; 09 Fos Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 622	PIC please - I love the devastation! Last edited by TheSilkySmooth; 11-25-2008 at 12:44 PM. Reason: no emoticon

11-25-2008, 12:53 PM	#8
tk-421 Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: 5D-07-LB Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dagobah Posts: 4,263	AFAIK, if the engine got damaged in the accident, it is very likely that it will be considered totalled. Good to know everyone's OK. Are you thinking about getting a new Yaris? __________________ --[ FORUM RULES ]--[ SEARCHING TIPS ]--[ EYELIDS PICS ]--[ RBK SPOILER ]--[ BEST/WORST INVESTMENTS ]--

12-01-2008, 10:14 PM	#14
Bob_VT View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,704	Well not being totaled maight be better. If you owed money on the car and depending on how much...... that's where GAP insurance comes into play. If they repair it and you do not feel comfortable with the car then trade it in. Some dealers will accept a smashed up trade and the insurance check applied to a new car since a dealers body shop can repair it cheaper. Bottom line.... no one hurt! __________________ some people are little slinkies. . . . .they are really good for nothing. . . .but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. Come to the DARKSIDE..... We have candy

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11-25-2008, 10:59 AM	#2
Tamago Start another Oil Thread! View User's Garage Drives: ZZW30 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 4,890	if you damaged the core support and the hood and fenders, you're looking at a $7000 bill.. depends where you take it.. airbags should be another $2000 ? the car's probably worth $10,000 give or take.. you're on the bleeding edge.. but yeah pictures would help

11-25-2008, 12:43 PM	#4
TheSilkySmooth Drives: 08 3DR 5M Bayou Blue; 09 Fos Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 622	Good you were unhurt - no ABS I guess. I had a rear lock on me and steer athe car. You may want to explore a lawsuit. It seem the yaris has rear brakes prone to locking up and causing swerving. Ok, From what you describe - this is Salvage - Unrepairable. Now you can go buy a "good" car like a Suzuki SX4 with AWD for 14K. Sonjas Bro

11-25-2008, 12:45 PM	#6
TheSilkySmooth Drives: 08 3DR 5M Bayou Blue; 09 Fos Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 622	So the guardrail was moving and the Yaris was stopped. I do not understand ...

11-26-2008, 01:34 AM	#12
eric81 View User's Garage Drives: Toyota Salesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Clarksville, IN Posts: 297	Weren't you in a wreck in a Yaris right before the hack? You have some seriously bad luck if you did. I remember you from before the hack, but not exactly what your posts were about. Nice person, as I remember though. (I used to be ergatzke)

12-01-2008, 11:14 AM	#13
Josh_G Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Western NC Posts: 10	Just as an update, the Yaris is getting towed to a Toyota dealer today for the final run through to determine if the car will be totaled or not. I couldn't get any pictures since the tow yard was closed for the Thanksgiving holiday. So far the Allstate guy that looked at the car as the repairs at $6,400 with about $1500 to $2k more before the car would be totaled. He wanted to get the Yaris up on a lift to check out the underside of the car before signing off on the repairs. But I don't think the dealer will find anything new given how we hit the guardrail.

12-02-2008, 12:24 PM	#15
TheSilkySmooth Drives: 08 3DR 5M Bayou Blue; 09 Fos Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 622	You have to pay for guardrail also - may cost MORE than car! This is no joke - the state will make you pay for property damage ...

12-02-2008, 12:26 PM	#16
TheSilkySmooth Drives: 08 3DR 5M Bayou Blue; 09 Fos Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 622	Josh- DONT go back to dealer they have NOTHING to do with your loan (unless buy here pay here) - the only deal you would make is a ROTTEN one ... - the Bro

12-10-2008, 08:21 AM	#18
Josh_G Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Western NC Posts: 10	Just to throw an update out there: So far my "final" repair estimate has changed three times, each time jumping upward, right now the Toyota dealer has the repair at $9556. My insurance company is giving the car a final review to determine it's pre-wreck value so they can decide whether to fix the car or not. Which considering the insurance co. (Allstate) has already seen the car, what more can they do to determine a pre-wreck value? But anyway, the $9556 is still under the 75% repair guideline in North Carolina since the blue book value is still over $13k. I already told Allstate that if the Yaris is totaled I expected to receive the value for an excellent car rating. My gut feeling is that the dealer wants the car totaled so they can sell me a new car. The sales department has called me twice (both times yesterday) just to make sure I was OK, blah, blah, blah right? What blew my mind is that I told the dealer I wasn't interested in getting a new car since I am in the process of building a house. The only way I would be interested would be if they wiped clean the debt I owed my current Yaris ($5.5K) and would take no more than my insurance settlement on my car. Oddly enough they said that was very possible. I should hear a final verdict from Allstate today or tomorrow so I'll probably update at least one more time. If they do total the car it will be pretty interesting if the dealership holds to their story on selling me another car.