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TURBOYarisDreem · 05-06-2013, 12:32 PM

Well that makes a lot of sense, and I know that from a tech point of view it probably would´nt be the best choice (even thought the Yaris is what superceded the Starlet, which is part of the reason why I´m exploring this) however the reasoning behind the question is that I have what seems to be a 4E-FTE out of a later model Glanza V, complete engine, accesories, 5 spd. MT and 3 plug ECU MT. The intention is/was to install it into a 90 EL31 Hatchback with a tired oil 3E carb engine but considering the 4E engine and the 90 chassis and how difficult the parts are to get sometimes I began considering finding a 98 tercel fixer upper, but its kinda the same deal as the EL 31, so I figured if it would be possible to get into a newer model yaris or go with the tercel.

TURBOYarisDreem · 05-06-2013, 12:46 PM

Forgot to thank ilikerice for the reply and input. Always appreciate an experts opinion.

ilikerice · 05-06-2013, 02:23 PM

OH yea, no problem.. I figured you had that motor sitting around. Looked at your yaris and then at the motor and a light bulb went off..

I have a 4age motor sitting in my garage right now. I have nothing to put it in but after seeing Etimago (misspelled prob) 4age swap on his yaris.. I think about it sometimes.. but then I dissmiss that thought. I would rather do a 2ZR swap and boost that instead. moar torque!

TURBOYarisDreem · 05-06-2013, 10:21 PM

But that leaves your 4age collecting more dust. Putting a side the high probability that all the electronics would probably be an unresolvable headache I figured since the yaris is what came after the starlet/tercel it would´nt vary that much as far engine bay space is concerned. Even if mounts were to be relocated, I´m not quite sure if there would be enough space in the yaris engine bay to accomodate the 4E and having the axles line up properly. So what are going to do with the 4age?

Rick

ilikerice · 05-07-2013, 04:31 AM

Came out of my friends Mr2. Swapped his for a JDM 4ag-ze with LSD. Since I helped him do the swap he gave me his old stuff. It needs a rebuild really bad. When it ran, it created smoke clouds like jets create in the sky. I will rebuild eventually. Still gotta get this d16a6 back in a Crx I'm waiting for. Then a buddy has a miata engine that started knocking. Once those are out of the way I will start the 4ag rebuild unless I sell it dirt cheap.

TURBOYarisDreem · 05-08-2013, 12:52 AM

Yeah, gave selling it dirt cheap a thought for a short while, but rather than doing that, I´d rather use it and put it in the old EL31. At least it´ll be a fun to drive car, which was more my original intention. Surely as you mentioned before, If one was after the most efficient, powerful, engine at the most convenient, economical price there are many other ways of achieving that without the 4E, but seeing as to what you already caught on to of having the engine I thought I explore other options prior to installing in the EL31. I was checking out this 2013 Yaris 5 door today and there may be enough room in the engine bay, but the whole set up looks so dif that I think I may be better of sticking to the original intention of the engine. I recall you saying in a previous message that it was too much work for such little power gain, but do you think its doable?

cnister1 · 05-13-2013, 09:20 PM

Hello guys!

I don't own a yaris buuuuut I'm interested in trying to swap the Yaris engine into my KP61 starlet. I know I know that the most popular swaps are 4ag or 13b rotary but I kinda wanted to stay as close as possible to it's 1.3L roots! And so the yaris is what I have in mind..

My questions are many but here's a few!

1. What would I have to modify on the engine to make it from fwd to rwd?

2. Anyone know of a rwd transmission that would be a straight bolt-on?

3. Even better has anyone performed this on any other car from fwd to rwd?

My Yaris gurus! I seek your knowledge and guidance! The Yaris engine would be an awesome upgrade if you consider that the original 4K-C engine only made:

The 1981 and 1982 California-spec 4K-C produced 58 hp (43 kW) at 5200 RPM and 67 lb·ft (90 Nm) at 3600 RPM.

CrankyOldMan · 05-14-2013, 06:48 AM

You would need something like this, and even then, there's no way of knowing if/how it will fit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-SUCCE...aebe32&vxp=mtr

cnister1 · 05-20-2013, 10:36 PM

That won't work at all! The starlet is a RWD configuration so I can't use that trans. The issue I can't find an answer to is finding a intake take faces the opposite way so that when the engine is in the rwd position the intake will face towards the front instead of the firewall. I will probably have to make a adapter plate for the transmission..

I need to research more before I commit to this swap!

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

You would need something like this, and even then, there's no way of knowing if/how it will fit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-SUCCE...aebe32&vxp=mtr

ilikerice · 05-21-2013, 05:31 AM

If you are going to converted your car to rwd and doing a lot of fabricating to get mounts done. A custom intake manifold is the least of your problems.

Just take the existing intake. Cut the flanges off and build a box with runners going to the flanges. Make a hole with a pipe coming from the front and slap one of those custom cai piping and your done.

monchito18 · 07-25-2013, 02:32 PM

2gr Confirmed.

ilikerice · 12-07-2013, 12:03 PM

^^^ not sure about this post?... Not sure what your saying here...

Also, that 2gr image isn't showing.. only see the sedan side profile picture..

On another note, this is about a month old now, but a guy from PR on a MicroImageOnline.com thread was able to swap a xD 2ZR in a yaris with minimal wiring fab only. You just need a xD donor car for the harness, ecu and motor of course.

Its alot of posts you gotta go thru but its pretty much a good DIY project and still running strong apparently.

Here is the tread,
http://microimageonline.com/forums/s...-TS-conversion

omarnas · 12-10-2013, 06:51 AM

Hi
I have 2nz installed in my car and I would like to upgrade it to 1nz.
can these 2 engine be swaped with out the headache of electrical wiring??

Bluevitz-rs · 12-10-2013, 07:40 AM

Yes the two motors are the physically the same. Though I'm not sure anyone has run a 1NZ on a 2NZ ECU before.

konnayi · 03-07-2014, 04:06 AM

Engine is the most important part of a machine.

fnkngrv · 03-29-2014, 12:43 AM

Here is a great way to give a swap a try and it is a pretty sweet price to start:

JDM 4EFTE

Less than a grand gets you a boosted motor with great internals and potential!

ilikerice · 03-31-2014, 08:45 AM

That wouldnt be a direct bolt up as far as motor mounts though, correct? I am not familar with the tercel and scartet chasis and motor setups.

but for 130ish bhp, don't know if it would be worth it if you still had to fab up parts and wiring....

Personally would rather do the xD 2zr swap..

Bluevitz-rs · 03-31-2014, 09:05 AM

For the same power and way better fuel economy, the 2ZR is the far better option.

05-06-2013, 12:32 PM	#127
TURBOYarisDreem Drives: 3rd Gen. Yaris Join Date: May 2013 Location: Central America Posts: 5	4E-FTE Yaris Well that makes a lot of sense, and I know that from a tech point of view it probably would´nt be the best choice (even thought the Yaris is what superceded the Starlet, which is part of the reason why I´m exploring this) however the reasoning behind the question is that I have what seems to be a 4E-FTE out of a later model Glanza V, complete engine, accesories, 5 spd. MT and 3 plug ECU MT. The intention is/was to install it into a 90 EL31 Hatchback with a tired oil 3E carb engine but considering the 4E engine and the 90 chassis and how difficult the parts are to get sometimes I began considering finding a 98 tercel fixer upper, but its kinda the same deal as the EL 31, so I figured if it would be possible to get into a newer model yaris or go with the tercel.

05-06-2013, 02:23 PM	#129
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	OH yea, no problem.. I figured you had that motor sitting around. Looked at your yaris and then at the motor and a light bulb went off.. I have a 4age motor sitting in my garage right now. I have nothing to put it in but after seeing Etimago (misspelled prob) 4age swap on his yaris.. I think about it sometimes.. but then I dissmiss that thought. I would rather do a 2ZR swap and boost that instead. moar torque! __________________ -Derrick- "Racing is important to men who do it well. When you're racing... It's life. Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting."

05-06-2013, 10:21 PM	#130
TURBOYarisDreem Drives: 3rd Gen. Yaris Join Date: May 2013 Location: Central America Posts: 5	$E-FTE Yaris But that leaves your 4age collecting more dust. Putting a side the high probability that all the electronics would probably be an unresolvable headache I figured since the yaris is what came after the starlet/tercel it would´nt vary that much as far engine bay space is concerned. Even if mounts were to be relocated, I´m not quite sure if there would be enough space in the yaris engine bay to accomodate the 4E and having the axles line up properly. So what are going to do with the 4age? Rick

05-07-2013, 04:31 AM	#131
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	Came out of my friends Mr2. Swapped his for a JDM 4ag-ze with LSD. Since I helped him do the swap he gave me his old stuff. It needs a rebuild really bad. When it ran, it created smoke clouds like jets create in the sky. I will rebuild eventually. Still gotta get this d16a6 back in a Crx I'm waiting for. Then a buddy has a miata engine that started knocking. Once those are out of the way I will start the 4ag rebuild unless I sell it dirt cheap. __________________ -Derrick- "Racing is important to men who do it well. When you're racing... It's life. Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting."

05-13-2013, 09:20 PM	#133
cnister1 Drives: n/a Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: los angeles Posts: 6	yaris engine swapped into a old skool KP61 possible? Hello guys! I don't own a yaris buuuuut I'm interested in trying to swap the Yaris engine into my KP61 starlet. I know I know that the most popular swaps are 4ag or 13b rotary but I kinda wanted to stay as close as possible to it's 1.3L roots! And so the yaris is what I have in mind.. My questions are many but here's a few! 1. What would I have to modify on the engine to make it from fwd to rwd? 2. Anyone know of a rwd transmission that would be a straight bolt-on? 3. Even better has anyone performed this on any other car from fwd to rwd? My Yaris gurus! I seek your knowledge and guidance! The Yaris engine would be an awesome upgrade if you consider that the original 4K-C engine only made: The 1981 and 1982 California-spec 4K-C produced 58 hp (43 kW) at 5200 RPM and 67 lb·ft (90 Nm) at 3600 RPM.

05-06-2013, 12:46 PM	#128
TURBOYarisDreem Drives: 3rd Gen. Yaris Join Date: May 2013 Location: Central America Posts: 5	Forgot to thank ilikerice for the reply and input. Always appreciate an experts opinion.

05-08-2013, 12:52 AM	#132
TURBOYarisDreem Drives: 3rd Gen. Yaris Join Date: May 2013 Location: Central America Posts: 5	Yeah, gave selling it dirt cheap a thought for a short while, but rather than doing that, I´d rather use it and put it in the old EL31. At least it´ll be a fun to drive car, which was more my original intention. Surely as you mentioned before, If one was after the most efficient, powerful, engine at the most convenient, economical price there are many other ways of achieving that without the 4E, but seeing as to what you already caught on to of having the engine I thought I explore other options prior to installing in the EL31. I was checking out this 2013 Yaris 5 door today and there may be enough room in the engine bay, but the whole set up looks so dif that I think I may be better of sticking to the original intention of the engine. I recall you saying in a previous message that it was too much work for such little power gain, but do you think its doable?

05-14-2013, 06:48 AM	#134
CrankyOldMan 2ZR swap. DO IT! Ask how! View User's Garage Drives: 09 Meteoric Metallic HB Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: West Michigan Posts: 2,333	You would need something like this, and even then, there's no way of knowing if/how it will fit. http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-SUCCE...aebe32&vxp=mtr

05-21-2013, 05:31 AM	#136
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	If you are going to converted your car to rwd and doing a lot of fabricating to get mounts done. A custom intake manifold is the least of your problems. Just take the existing intake. Cut the flanges off and build a box with runners going to the flanges. Make a hole with a pipe coming from the front and slap one of those custom cai piping and your done. __________________ -Derrick- "Racing is important to men who do it well. When you're racing... It's life. Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting."

07-25-2013, 02:32 PM	#137
monchito18 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Puerto Rico, Isabela Posts: 427	2gr Confirmed. __________________

12-07-2013, 12:03 PM	#138
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	^^^ not sure about this post?... Not sure what your saying here... Also, that 2gr image isn't showing.. only see the sedan side profile picture.. On another note, this is about a month old now, but a guy from PR on a MicroImageOnline.com thread was able to swap a xD 2ZR in a yaris with minimal wiring fab only. You just need a xD donor car for the harness, ecu and motor of course. Its alot of posts you gotta go thru but its pretty much a good DIY project and still running strong apparently. Here is the tread, http://microimageonline.com/forums/s...-TS-conversion __________________ -Derrick- "Racing is important to men who do it well. When you're racing... It's life. Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting."

12-10-2013, 06:51 AM	#139
omarnas I've made a post! Drives: corolla 2005 2nz engine Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: amman jordan Posts: 1	Hi I have 2nz installed in my car and I would like to upgrade it to 1nz. can these 2 engine be swaped with out the headache of electrical wiring??

12-10-2013, 07:40 AM	#140
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Yes the two motors are the physically the same. Though I'm not sure anyone has run a 1NZ on a 2NZ ECU before.

03-07-2014, 04:06 AM	#141
konnayi Drives: RX-7 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Zibo Posts: 2	Engine is the most important part of a machine. __________________ CCPM from ESky is a special good rc heli. It is worthy to be owned.

03-29-2014, 12:43 AM	#142
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	Here is a great way to give a swap a try and it is a pretty sweet price to start: JDM 4EFTE Less than a grand gets you a boosted motor with great internals and potential! __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

03-31-2014, 08:45 AM	#143
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	That wouldnt be a direct bolt up as far as motor mounts though, correct? I am not familar with the tercel and scartet chasis and motor setups. but for 130ish bhp, don't know if it would be worth it if you still had to fab up parts and wiring.... Personally would rather do the xD 2zr swap.. __________________ -Derrick- "Racing is important to men who do it well. When you're racing... It's life. Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting."

03-31-2014, 09:05 AM	#144
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	For the same power and way better fuel economy, the 2ZR is the far better option.

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